Door speakers and MTX Amplified ThunderForm

[aldive]

When using the MTX Amplified ThunderForm , do you need to use "base blockers" from the 4 door speakers?

If not "needed", will it sound better using them?

Thanks....

 

[explortainment]

you should get bass blockers to make your door speakers more efficient, and then you can turn it up louder cause high frequencies don't need a lot of power to sound good, it's the subs that take 1000's of watts.

 

[aldive]

I have NO INTEREST in turning it up, as you phrase it.

I enjoy my music and want clarity not volume, furtherm I vakue my hearing too.

 

[tbomb]

bill (explortainment) is right. if youre gonna put a sub in your truck (and i think i asked you this a while ago, and you said you werent), you should use the bass blockers; but if youre not using a sub, then dont use the bass blockers, otherwise, youll have all frequencies coming from those speakers, except the lows.

in response to "I enjoy my music and want clarity not volume, furtherm I vakue my hearing too." - just because someone turns their music up loud, doesnt mean they dont enjoy their music. also, you can have clarity AND volume, you dont have to sacrifice one for the other, unless you buy garbage components. and loud music does not mean youre going to damage your hearing.

 

[Kontrol-Trak]

Originally posted by aldive
When using the MTX Amplified ThunderForm , do you need to use "base blockers" from the 4 door speakers?

If not "needed", will it sound better using them?

Thanks....

Although not necessary, your system will sound better if you put crossover to filter out bass singals from F&R speakers because they will no longer be "trying" to produce the lower frequencies they can not. Perhaps you should get an electric crossover that is adjustable so you can fine tune it. Have some bass coming from the speakers also, so that the bass from the sub will "enhance" the sound. If you cut too much bass from them, you'll end up with unnatural sound staging.

 

[aldive]

Originally posted by tbomb
and loud music does not mean youre going to damage your hearing.

LOUD sounds period DO INDEED damage to hearing,

 

[aldive]

Re: Re: Door speakers and MTX Amplified ThunderForm

Originally posted by Kontrol-Trak
Perhaps you should get an electric crossover that is adjustable so you can fine tune it. Have some bass coming from the speakers also, so that the bass from the sub will "enhance" the sound. If you cut too much bass from them, you'll end up with unnatural sound staging.

Thanks for your help. I do have a couple of questions - how is this "crossover" installed? How is it adjusted? What do they cost?

Thanks again for your help....

 

[Kontrol-Trak]

Crossovers cost around $25-$150, but you will need an amp integrated in your system to use them.(check Dead Link Removed website to get an idea) Because they take RCA lines. I know that JVC KD-SH99 has front/rear preamp outputs and subwoofer outputs, but I'm not sure if crossover points are adjustable by the HU

 

[tbomb]

Originally posted by aldive


LOUD sounds period DO INDEED damage to hearing,

ok, doc, ill just let this one slide because i really dont have time to run around in circles with you (but your statement isnt 100% accurate, for the record.)

 

[aldive]

When installing this sub package, is it recommended to line the area with dynamat? I am concerned about possible vibrations and rattles induced by the bass.

Thoughts and ideas requested....

 

[Kontrol-Trak]

If your budget allows, you should dynamat whatever you can while you are at it. My Ex has a factory sub and it still rattles like :roll: You won't be disappointed with the results.

 

[nosaj122081]

Gotta agree with Aldive on the hearing loss, it DOES occur. I've had 3 different competition vehicles, the first hit in the low 130's, the second high 130's to 140's, and the most recent hit 153dB, legal. I'm nearly 20 years old, built my first competitor when I was 16 and have been doing pro installs in dozens of cars since I was 17. I have the dreaded ear ring : albiet mild, I pulled my head out of my butt soon enough, but it is there. I did the damage with the car that hit 130's, not my 153dB car, it doesn't take much at all. It does happen and it does suck, I've got to live with the ringing for the rest of my life. I wear hearing protection now and do SPL tests with remotes outside the car, but my hearing will never be 100%, ever again. Be careful!

 

[aldive]

I have several friends who played in a band in their misguided youth and they would give anything to have their hearing back today.

Hearing is one of those things that you don't appreciate until you lose it. I hope you take head and save yours.

 

[tbomb]

Originally posted by aldive
When installing this sub package, is it recommended to line the area with dynamat? I am concerned about possible vibrations and rattles induced by the bass.

Thoughts and ideas requested....

the only thing to watch with dynamat is that your gas mileage might suffer. al, i know youre always looking for better mpg, and dynamat is heavy stuff, but if youre only using a small amount, youll be fine.

 

[aldive]

Take a look at http://www.music-injury.com/html/hearing.html

 

[SCEXPLORER]

THOSE WITH AMPLIFIED MTX

I'm about to install my amplified MTX sub and was wondering how you all like yours?

 

[M.Scott]

When I installed my thunderform and had the big side trim panel off I masked and sprayed the whole thing with rubberized undercoating. Then I sprayed the metal parts and wheel well hump. Then I glued carpet padding to the truck around where the thunderform was to be installed. In the end I had to push on the thunderform hard to get screwed into place over the foam...but very solid. Also I put a little padding around the trim attachment points. To this day no rattles from anywhere back there. I suppose dynamat guys will say I just got lucky.

The bass blockers are good if you don't plan to have an external amp that usually has crossovers built in. Depending on the quality of your speakers just block the lower frequencies below 300 or 150 hz. I did this in a honda with 6 1/2 pioneers and used 300hz blockers and it stopped the distortion on the low notes. Although I found out later that bass distortion can also be caused by not enough power so when I added an amp to the honda I used the amp crossover to filter out everything below 80hz and got more bass and still filtered out most distortion the spakers couldn't handle.

But also check you head unit closely. As suggested in another post you may also have RCA outputs (usually for subs) that allow the full/low only frequencys and are not effected by bass and treble adjustment. That would mean you could lower bass on the 4 speakers only while allowing all the lower frequencies to reach the sub amp untouched.

 

[gatorglenn]

>>LOUD sounds period DO INDEED damage to hearing,


HUH?

 

[EO]

Originally posted by aldive
I hope you take head and save yours.

Take head?!? I'll buy that!