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gt183

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Ok so I just wanted to make sure I had this right before I went and made the purchase. First off I have these rims:
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4wheelparts is running a special on Pro Comp wheels and tires. I want to put a 265/75/16 Xtreme A/T tire on. The wheels I want to get are the Pro Comp Series 7089

From what I gathered the specs on my current rim is a 16" x 7" with a 44mm offset. The specs I got on the new wheels, Part Number: PXA7089-6865, are a 16" x 8", 5 on 4.5 Bolt Pattern, BackSpace of 4.5 in. and an Offset of -6 mm. My question is will this work?
 



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I like the rims, they should work fine, they are the right size. Do you have any kind of lift installed?
 












The lift is the least expensive part, and can probably save you from having to trim any part of your vehicle if the tires rub any.
 






Nice looking rims and tires, you'll have a good lookin set-up. Where on LI are u from??
 












OK, first point is that the edge of these will stick out around 2" further than your current rims. That's not such an issue; the major issue to me is that the rims are NOT hub centric, which means the wheel studs & nuts are taking all the weight, and the total of 20 wheel studs are not designed to hold over 2 tonnes (4500lbs). The decision is yours, of course, but if it were me, I'd be looking for a set of wheels that are hub centric. You could always fit those tyres onto your existing rims, and then when you find the right rims then swap the tyres over to them.
 






The lift is the least expensive part, and can probably save you from having to trim any part of your vehicle if the tires rub any.

Yea, but unfortunately I NEED tires right now, and nothing else is in the budget. Next will be some of Aldive's modifications for my fuel economy. And I thought they shouldn’t rub with a 265/75/16? Or are your referring more to the change of rim?

Nice looking rims and tires, you'll have a good lookin set-up. Where on LI are u from??

Thanks NYMount. I'm in East Islip, how bout you?

OK, first point is that the edge of these will stick out around 2" further than your current rims. That's not such an issue; the major issue to me is that the rims are NOT hub centric, which means the wheel studs & nuts are taking all the weight, and the total of 20 wheel studs are not designed to hold over 2 tonnes (4500lbs). The decision is yours, of course, but if it were me, I'd be looking for a set of wheels that are hub centric. You could always fit those tyres onto your existing rims, and then when you find the right rims then swap the tyres over to them.

Thanks JCUZ, you’re always the best at giving the most detailed explanation. I guess my measurements were off, I would rather my wheels not stick out because that is a sure fire way to get a ticket where I live. Plus I don’t really like the look of it without fender flares. Can you tell me exactly what the difference is between and hub centric wheel and a non hub centric wheel? Also, not that I question you, but where did you get your specifications on the studs? Those seem like pretty weak studs. Are they Grade 5, Grade 8, or something else? I was going to just get my rims powder coated or paint them, but I figured I can buy new rims and sell my old ones to offset the price a little.
 






Yea, but unfortunately I NEED tires right now, and nothing else is in the budget. Next will be some of Aldive's modifications for my fuel economy. And I thought they shouldn’t rub with a 265/75/16? Or are your referring more to the change of rim?



Thanks NYMount. I'm in East Islip, how bout you?



Thanks JCUZ, you’re always the best at giving the most detailed explanation. I guess my measurements were off, I would rather my wheels not stick out because that is a sure fire way to get a ticket where I live. Plus I don’t really like the look of it without fender flares. Can you tell me exactly what the difference is between and hub centric wheel and a non hub centric wheel? Also, not that I question you, but where did you get your specifications on the studs? Those seem like pretty weak studs. Are they Grade 5, Grade 8, or something else? I was going to just get my rims powder coated or paint them, but I figured I can buy new rims and sell my old ones to offset the price a little.

So you think I "waffle" LOL!

OK, here goes. Hub centric means the centre bore of the rim locates exactly (or with a little help from a plastic hub spacer approx 1/16" thick, but that depends on the rim) onto the sticky out part (hub) of your axle. The hub therefore supports the weight of the wheel (or the truck, whichever way you want to look at it), all the wheel nuts do is keep the wheel from flying off.

For non-hub centric, the centre bore is either too large to snug onto the hub, or doesn't come anywhere near the hub, so only the wheel nuts hold both the weight of the wheel and the car and they secure the rim to the car. I'm not exactly sure what grade studs are used, but I have had one stud bent, and one broke within 80kms of getting my hubcentric rims fitted - all because they forgot to tighten the nuts right up, so the wheel was being supported by the studs only, as it was not securely located on the hub. others have also had broken wheel studs, and my bet in 90% of cases it's because they are running non hub centric rims.

Now, some cars/trucks come with non-hub centric rims, but then they are designed for it. You will find that these are usually smaller type cars that have 5 studs to bear the weight, or larger trucks that have 6 or 8 studs to take the weight. The explorer being a big heavy 5 studder, with hub centric rims from factory is obviously done that way (to me) because the studs just can't support the weight on their own, and my loose wheel nut has proven that to me.

Your 265/75/16s may just hit the back part of the plastic inner shield under the guard (on the front only, and only when turning) - but if you use just one cable tie each side to pull it back, it won't rub at all.

Here's the little plastic hub rings i was talking about (these are different to hub adapters):
http://www.asianproducts.com/product_1/Wheel-Hub-Centric_P12136371096081723.htm

These are hub centric adapters:
http://www.bernardembden.com/xjs/hubcentric/index.htm
 






OK, first point is that the edge of these will stick out around 2" further than your current rims. That's not such an issue; the major issue to me is that the rims are NOT hub centric, which means the wheel studs & nuts are taking all the weight, and the total of 20 wheel studs are not designed to hold over 2 tonnes (4500lbs). The decision is yours, of course, but if it were me, I'd be looking for a set of wheels that are hub centric. You could always fit those tyres onto your existing rims, and then when you find the right rims then swap the tyres over to them.

Although hub centric is the preferable method, lug centric is not a "bad" thing. If you owned a Super Duty and wanted aftermarket rims you would most likely go lug centric. 60% of the aftermarket rims including Center Line, Pro Comp and American Racing are lug centric. Just make sure you use the conical lug nuts with them an torque them down properly. If a Super Duty, which has a payload capacity of 6,000+ lbs can use lug centric, so can you, some people just prefer hub centric. (I'm one of them) The wheel manufactures actually coined up lug centric so they can make one wheel fit many different applications. Just my 2 cents.
 






I'm from Huntington, always nice to find another LIer
 












I'm from Huntington, always nice to find another LIer

O wow thats funny. Are you closer to the Station or to the Town? There is actually a really cheap tire shop by you on NY Ave. I think its called New York Discount Tire.

And JCUZ your an Islander too? How did you end up in Oz?
 






O wow thats funny. Are you closer to the Station or to the Town? There is actually a really cheap tire shop by you on NY Ave. I think its called New York Discount Tire.

And JCUZ your an Islander too? How did you end up in Oz?
Nah, I'm an Aussie, just worked in the US for a while in 2000, although if immigration asks, I was a tourist! I did both sides of the country - Melville on LI, and then irvine in OC.
 






Thats a pretty sweet deal JCUZ. Yea Melville is a township of huntington.

gt183- my mailing address is the station, but I live probably closer to the village. I live right by HHS
 






Anyone know what the hub opening diameter is?
 






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