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Engine Oil Dipstick location???

Dr Plastic

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What engineer in their right mind put the dipstick in such a location that makes it all but unreachable by many owners??? This is the first car I have ever owned that I cannot reach the dipstick.

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What engineer in their right mind put the dipstick in such a location that makes it all but unreachable by many owners??? This is the first car I have ever owned that I cannot reach the dipstick.

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Real dumb.
I'd expect to see a picture.

Peter
 






What engineer in their right mind put the dipstick in such a location that makes it all but unreachable by many owners??? This is the first car I have ever owned that I cannot reach the dipstick.

Dumb




I'd expect to see a picture.

Peter
You must not be familiar with the 6th gen 2.3 liter engine. If you were, you would know that the dipstick is located on top of and in the the center of the left side cam cover.
 






No, I'm not familiar with that engine or the location and probably others are not as well. That's why a picture would help to go along with the narrative.

Peter
 






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It's there you just need to be 6ft tall to reach it. I'm 6' 2" and have to stretch to refill the oil.
 






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It's there you just need to be 6ft tall to reach it. I'm 6' 2" and have to stretch to refill the oil.
I'm 5'4". so it is almost 12" out of my reach.
 






I reccomend a dining room chair or stool.
 






Where would you like the dipstick to go?

Reality is this a longitudinal install of a 4 cylinder (not a V type engine), meaning the block itself is more centered in the vehicle - that increases the perception of a reach to get to the dipstick.

Next, the dipstick is generally located near the furthest forward point of the sump. Measure the oil further forward and you aren't measuring the level in the sump. Move the low point of the sump and you start interfering with how the engine is placed in the unit.

Next note that with the rear wheel drive setup in the explorer, moving the engine back like it sits pretty deep under the cowl helps with distributing weight rearward - making the the vehicle handle like it does relative to front wheel drive biased designs. There is a ton of space between the front grill / radiator / condenser and the front of the engine block in this design. Move the engine further forward and means the handling will change - and mostly not for the better, With the move to smaller turbo engines and electric fans, this trend has accelerated and increases the reach to the dipstick.

Front wheel drive setups often can get the dipstick right up front since the engine is in a transverse installation (essentially the side of the engine is turned towards the front.) The Explorer (by design) is not that way.

Last, the dipstick location appears to be common to all the applications this engine is used in - simplifying the # of variants required.

For the minimal number of times I check the dipstick, its location doesn't bother me. It sure is easier tor each than the one in My F150 or my work trucks...
 






Where would you like the dipstick to go?

Reality is this a longitudinal install of a 4 cylinder (not a V type engine), meaning the block itself is more centered in the vehicle - that increases the perception of a reach to get to the dipstick.

Next, the dipstick is generally located near the furthest forward point of the sump. Measure the oil further forward and you aren't measuring the level in the sump. Move the low point of the sump and you start interfering with how the engine is placed in the unit.

Next note that with the rear wheel drive setup in the explorer, moving the engine back like it sits pretty deep under the cowl helps with distributing weight rearward - making the the vehicle handle like it does relative to front wheel drive biased designs. There is a ton of space between the front grill / radiator / condenser and the front of the engine block in this design. Move the engine further forward and means the handling will change - and mostly not for the better, With the move to smaller turbo engines and electric fans, this trend has accelerated and increases the reach to the dipstick.

Front wheel drive setups often can get the dipstick right up front since the engine is in a transverse installation (essentially the side of the engine is turned towards the front.) The Explorer (by design) is not that way.

Last, the dipstick location appears to be common to all the applications this engine is used in - simplifying the # of variants required.

For the minimal number of times I check the dipstick, its location doesn't bother me. It sure is easier tor each than the one in My F150 or my work trucks...
LOL! You must not have had many cars in your life. All of the 4-cylinder cars I have owned had the dipstick come up from the bottom of the block in a tube, on the side of the engine. that was easily reachable. Nice way to make an excuse for a bad design though.
 












Here is where mine is located on the 3.0 engine. I'm 5'9" and it's all I can do to reach it.

Peter

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The dipstick is in such a bad location in our ST that nearly every time I check the oil I knock the bumpstop for the hood out of it's mount. It's amazing how poorly engineered the bumpstop is to be able to dislodge so easily.
 


















Where is the crossover support between the strut towers? I've owned a 2020 XLT RWD, and now a 2023 ST Line RWD both with the 2.3 and both had the crossover support. Does anyone have a explanation for their existence or lack of. I also need a stool for that dipstick, so it rarely gets checked. It's kind of like the non-existent transmission dipstick in the Fusion Hybrid.

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LOL! You must not have had many cars in your life. All of the 4-cylinder cars I have owned had the dipstick come up from the bottom of the block in a tube, on the side of the engine. that was easily reachable. Nice way to make an excuse for a bad design thoug

So, how many of all the 4 cylinder cars (and I note you state cars - not trucks or SUV's) were rear wheel drive with longitudinal engine installations?

I've politely pointed out the engineering reasons why it is where it is.
 






About 10. I have owned around 40+ cars/trucks and SUVs so far.
 



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