Engine swap help

[95viper08]

So a few months back I started a swap in my 93 to a 302 from a 71 mustang. Work life etc anyway back to work on it and just got my motor mounts - they are the advanced adaptors for 4wd - it gives dimensions to use as a guideline but it doesn't say what hold in the cross member they are measuring from - has anyone installed these mounts? Has anyone who has done this swap help? Once this is done I can get the rest installed easy but I can't get this figured out for the life of me

 

[Rick]

It's possible that [MENTION=97]Kris Guilbeaux[/MENTION] has dealt with those mounts. He has done several swaps.

 

[FR-425]

Your best bet is to mock it up in place.

There is no such thing as bolt on engine swap.

Get the engine and trans stabbed in there and verify placement before you start cut'n and welding or drilling

Once you have the mounts "tacked" in place check fitment of headers, steering shaft, possible exhaust routing issues, radiator/ fan mock up, ect.

Don't final weld/drill/cut until you have reached full assembly then tear it all down for the final burn.

If the instructions are for a bolt in type mount it is still best to do the mock up, tac weld in place then drill the necessary holes. once the holes are drilled break the tac welds with your grinder and BFH. grind and clean up, paint. Then bolt the mounts home.

Wouldn't want to you to cut and redo (and buy new mounts) because something was missed.

There is NO step by step or short cut method that can insure a proper fit with out actual mock up.

Hope this helps.

Take your time and double look at everything and the end result will be satisfying.

 

[95viper08]

The mounts have a stud that goes through the cross memeber so there is no way to tack the mounts in place but I see what your saying - fan and radiator can't be felt with till motor is in - same with tranny - I think I'm close my dad and brother and I screwed around for 2hours today and were sure were close we have the holes marked but before we drill we wanted to see if anyone has used these mounts and could tell us if were close

 

[Kris Guilbeaux]

The motor mounts I'm using in my 5.0 swap is the James duff motor mounts but I don't like how they keep the motor so high in the engine bay so I modified them and a mustang oil pan to set the motor down lower and further back I lined up the transmission mount to the stock explorer location. But even with all this I still need to grind down the ttb drop bracket. It's gonna take some creative thinking on how to get it in there just right. Seams nothing off the shelf seams to work with out modification.

 

[95viper08]

Well mine are from advanced adaptors - I like the mounts there well built - one piece though - and it's calling to drill a hole 2.5" back and 2.25 up on passenger side and 1" up and 1.25 back on driver side from existing holes - but doesn't specify which hole - should I go based on the hole for the stud from the v6 perch?

 

[FR-425]

They are most likely using the factory holes as the reference.

If you lower the engine in with the mounts attached to it does it look like the dimensions they gave you make sense?

 

[95viper08]

Driver side yes - passenger side no - there dimension up put the hole up in the air but if u go up 1" like the driver side it's pretty close - they say slot the new holes forward and back but were thinking they need to be slotted down since the mounts have a stud on them about 1.25" long the motor will want to lower it self into the holes so we figured slot them down so the motor mounts will fall flush with the cross member

 

[FR-425]

OK I got some visuals.

Hope this helps.

Your Advance Adaptors mounts: Yes?

The directions:

The Plan: Drawing is lame but it should do, I hope

So three plumb bobs, the starting point, measure "out", Measure to rear. Mark it.

The Studs would then go in the new slots. Giving you some adjustment room forward and aft.

Then the mounts remain on the cross member. Lower the engine in and finagle the bolts up into the block. Nice!

 

[FR-425]

Post up your burn-out video. I need a dose of roasted mudders!