Front&rear driveshaft cv joints

[Delto1707]

Are you sure it's the rear shaft you have removed, the picture is of a front shaft? I have pictures of my front shafts along my rebuilding of the friont suspension long ago, it's the same as that.

That front shaft is very small, you can wrap any fingers around it. The rear shaft is much larger, about 3" in diameter, and longer, maybe five feet long. The rear shaft will have a flat flange at the rear that bolts to the diff.

I unbolted this from the back axle soooo

 

[Delto1707]

I unbolted this from the back axle soooo

Plus there's snow on the ground and my front tires spinning around biting like I'm in 4 by 4 so I know I have front drive

 

[CDW6212R]

I think someone has been messing with you or the truck. The rear drive shaft will look far different than that front shaft.

My 98 Mountaineer has all options also, the only thing they couldn't have is the air suspension, and memory seats. The AWD drivetrain determines what driveshaft parts it has. The OP is confused about which shaft he's got in hand or needs.

 

[Delto1707]

I think someone has been messing with you or the truck. The rear drive shaft will look far different than that front shaft. My 98 Mountaineer has all options also, the only thing they couldn't have is the air suspension, and memory seats. This is a very old picture, from about 2005.

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Well I pulled the thing I drive it and my fronts pull and spin in the snow and I unbolted this shaft from the rear and found this CV joint that pushes into a hole in the back axle **** sooo idk man I have a hole open in the back axle that this CV goes in . both drive lines have a u joint an sit the same ones longer

 

[drdoom]

What a flippin' train wreck

 

[drdoom]

You bought a truck with a front shaft in front, and a front shaft laying in the back of the truck. Then come in here all excited...

 

[Delto1707]

You bought a truck with a front shaft in front, and a front shaft laying in the back of the truck. Then come in here all excited...

Nope had this thing for years drive it all the time . fronts spit up mud spinning down my road . that CV goes in my rear axle I pulled it from the back not the front soo your cool right

 

[CDW6212R]

You bought a truck with a front shaft in front, and a front shaft laying in the back of the truck. Then come in here all excited...

That's funny. My prior 98 Limited I got with a front shaft inside the cabin, I was told it was taken out by a mechanic five years before. They were driving it as a 2WD, and never fixed the front shaft. I finally got to looking at that shaft to rebuild the CV joint, and was confused by the length.

I wasn't sure which I had in hand, since I knew I also had my V6 truck apart, and wanted to be sure I rebuilt the right one. I dug up the other one, and guess what, they were both the same length. That past owner had a V6 front shaft inside when I got it, most likely they lied and just bought a random shaft to go with the truck. So I have a spare V6 front shaft I don't need.

 

[CDW6212R]

Nope had this thing for years drive it all the time . fronts spit up mud spinning down my road . that CV goes in my rear axle I pulled it from the back not the front soo your cool right

Someone needs to hunt a correct picture of the rear driveshaft from a 302 Explorer. No offense but the pictures you posted is not a rear shaft, no way in hell. That six bolt unique CV joint flange is very well known here. Everybody that is familiar with the 98-01 trucks will tell you the same thing. We cannot tell if it's a V6 or V8 due to the length, but that's a front driveshaft, not a rear.

 

[drdoom]

Yes I am looking at the images, and that is not a normal configuration for US models. The part number in the image is for a V8 front shaft. Notice the complete absence of a companion flange on the end, identical to a front shaft with a small universal joint secured with straps. So that would mean a six bolt cup flange on the differential, and an old school yoke on the AWD transfer case, as well as custom lengthening of the shaft itself. Interesting.

 

[imp]

Are you sure it's the rear shaft you have removed, the picture is of a front shaft? I have pictures of my front shafts along my rebuilding of the friont suspension long ago, it's the same as that.

That front shaft is very small, you can wrap any fingers around it. The rear shaft is much larger, about 3" in diameter, and longer, maybe five feet long. The rear shaft will have a flat flange at the rear that bolts to the diff.

Below is a picture of my front shaft, for my 98 Mountaineer, and the custom shaft I had made to replace it when I install a true 4WD TC, the BW4406 TOD version. Note the rear part uses a double cardon joint, which the stock rear might have in it.

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There is a RAFT of misunderstanding going on in this thread, IMO. The Double Cardan Constant Velocity Joint shown (one is calling it "DC", not all will recognize that) is a specialized U-Joint coupling which provides constant velocity to both input and output shafts, by using two standard cross-type U-Joints back to back, joined by a centering ball and socket. They are expensive, heavy, and have been traditionally used a lot on luxury cars, Caddy & Lincoln for example. The other CV joint shown is identical to the type used on Explorer FRONT DRIVESHAFTS by the transfer case end of the front driveshaft. Cheaper to make, not as strong, but pretty long-lived. Note that this type has NO SPLINED SLIP JOINT; length variation is built into the joint design. The driveshaft above it with the Cardan CV HAS A SPLINED SLIP JOINT; without it, there would be no way of getting the U-Joint cups into the flanges at the ends. Also, rear driveshaft length changes as rear suspension travels up and down; the splined slip joint takes care of that. On later models having INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION, the "pumpkin" is fastened to the frame; it does not move up and down with the wheels, this being true also of the front pumpkin.

 

[Mbrooks420]

Take a picture of your front driveshaft, and the the transfer case itself.

Something doesn’t add up, your rear driveshaft should have u joints on both ends. It should also be larger diameter.

Without pictures no one is going to able to help you. We’ll wait.

You can’t find one because what you have shouldn’t exist on the car.

 

[MAS Tequila]

Here you go, 2000 Mounty.

This one had every option except air ride and sunroof.

Pictures of the front and rear of the shaft showing the u-joints.

And WTF is a select model?

I had a 2001 Premier back in 2001-2004.

 

[Mbrooks420]

I was referring to the original poster. I’m aware of what it *should* be.

 

[Mbrooks420]

Also, options of the vehicle would have zero bearing on this. The most stripped out base V8 would have the same driveline as the most optioned out Mountaineer Monterey.

 

[MAS Tequila]

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Also, options of the vehicle would have zero bearing on this. The most stripped out base V8 would have the same driveline as the most optioned out Mountaineer Monterey.

I was referring to the original poster. I’m aware of what it *should* be.

As was I, showing the OP what it should look like.

 

[MAS Tequila]

Sorry about the quotes, my Apple browser wouldn’t back up.

 

[CDW6212R]

Thanks for the pictures, I couldn't find any quickly. I knew the rear had simple u-joints, I have them here new planning to change them some day.

 

[Mbrooks420]

Still waiting.

 

[CDW6212R]

I think he left.