fusion key

[MountaineerGreen]

Somebody try this on a 2nd gen, Please!

 

[jsbaker]

The second gens have a different pats system than the 3rd gens and the key is not going to work on them

On a side note: My key came to day and I am about to go program the remote and make sure that works before I go have the key cut.

 

[IAmTodd]

Somebody try this on a 2nd gen, Please!

Unfortunately we're stuck with our big ugly key and separate fob. If they weren't so much I would try it, but its not worth wasting a key.

 

[jsbaker]

So I can confirm that it does work, not that I doubt'ed quick six. The jackass at wal-mart would not cut my key. He was just a jackass in general and It think Pissed cause he was behind the counter. They had that Axxess machine and said they were not allowed to cut transponder keys, I said well they did last time and he did not like that. So I went to Sears hardware down the road and they had the same machine and said they were not supposed to do it but he said he was going to do it anyways. It's all programmed and now I have key #3.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I wish I could find a key, try to program it without cutting it. Cut a non transponder key for the ignition and see if it worked. Remove all other transponder keys from range of course. It wouldn't cost much, and I suppose it could work.

 

[IAmTodd]

maybe I'll try that if my dad gets one for their '07.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

Can you program the same key to two PATS systems, or will the original vehicle have to be re programmed?

 

[rwenzing]

Can you program the same key to two PATS systems, or will the original vehicle have to be re programmed?

That should not be a problem. It changes nothing in the key when you do the programming. What you are doing is teaching the PATS system to recognize and accept the unique RFID of that particular key.

Of course, both Fords would need to have similar PATS systems because only certain key types are recognized by each system. For example, I was not able to reuse my factory 2003 Ranger PATS keys with the 99 Explorer PATS system in my truck since I did the 5.0L engine swap. I had to get 99 Ex key blanks, cut them and program the transplanted Explorer PATS to accept them.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I wonder if I could get lucky enough that my 01 would have a newer pats system?

 

[rwenzing]

I wonder if I could get lucky enough that my 01 would have a newer pats system?

I have a PATS chart and it says that 98~2001 Ex 4-door use PATS "B" and 2002~2005 use PATS "E" (the same incompatible PATS "E" that my 2003 Ranger had). The chart only goes through 2005MY so the Fusion is not on the list. However, it appears that you may be out of luck regarding using the Fusion key in a Gen2 Ex.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

Could the transponder be transplanted to the fusion key from a regular key?

 

[bigapple]

does anyone know if the key works with a mountainneer PATS system 02+? i have a friend that mite want to buy a fusion key

 

[IAmTodd]

Same system. It will work.

 

[techieman33]

Could the transponder be transplanted to the fusion key from a regular key?

That might work, since the fusion could should open up pretty easily since you have to be able to put a new battery in it for the fob

 

[briwayjones]

I have a PATS chart and it says that 98~2001 Ex 4-door use PATS "B" and 2002~2005 use PATS "E" (the same incompatible PATS "E" that my 2003 Ranger had). The chart only goes through 2005MY so the Fusion is not on the list. However, it appears that you may be out of luck regarding using the Fusion key in a Gen2 Ex.

What about a 2003 Sport?

 

[IAmTodd]

Could the transponder be transplanted to the fusion key from a regular key?

I would still wonder if our transponder would fit in there. Its rather large. Also, would the key physically fit between the plastic guide?

 

[briwayjones]

Also, would the key physically fit between the plastic guide?

Dremel Baby!

 

[rwenzing]

What about a 2003 Sport?

2003 Explorer Sport uses PATS "E" like the 2002+ 4-door.

 

[briwayjones]

2003 Explorer Sport uses PATS "E" like the 2002+ 4-door.

Schwing!!!! Fusion key here I come.

 

[quicksix]

ohh yeah forgot to mention edge key works also......as long as your customer program is enabled you only need the 2 original key and the 3rd key will program after you cycle the first 2....for the remote cycle the key 5 times leaving the ignition in the run position and press any button on the fobs they all must be programed at the same time....