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hid color temps differ by brand?

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looking on ebay... some brands have pictures of there 5,000 6,000 and 8,000's and they all look the same...do different brands mean the actual color is going to be different then otehr brands or is a 6,000k color strict at 6,000 k with white and some blue?
 



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Ive seen 8000k that are 4 times bluer than my 10000k set
 






6000k is 6000k no matter where you buy them from. Now that doesn't mean that all lamps will be the same color. They will all be a little different due to manufacturing difference, but should be close.

Agreed.

I scored some 5000K bulbs a while back which were less white than the 4300K bulbs I already had. 35 watt bulbs tend to be more "colourful" than 55 watt bulbs when compared side by side for the same K rating.
 






The cheaper the bulb the more color variation there will be. 4300K from an OEM mfg. would/should be the same. When you get into the cheaper kits, whos to say how they measured the K rating. Best you can hope for is that both bulbs are the same.
 






4300k is as close to sunlight as you can get. The light gets more "colorful" the higher you go. 6000K is somewhat white-blue, 8000k is bluish, 10000k and up starts becoming purplish....etc.
 






The cheaper the bulb the more color variation there will be. 4300K from an OEM mfg. would/should be the same. When you get into the cheaper kits, whos to say how they measured the K rating. Best you can hope for is that both bulbs are the same.

While this is true to some degree, even the more pricey kits don't really follow any appreciable standard. Heck even the OEMs don't. A 4300K bulb from Philips (yellower) looks different than a 4300K bulb from OSRAM (pinker). What seperates the OEMs from the kit makers, is the fact that for one manufacturer ALL 4300K bulbs are essentially IDENTICAL in light output, arc position, lifetime etc. For EVERY bulb they make. While the kit makers on the other hand do not. THe more expensive kits tend to match a pair of bulbs, so that when you buy a kit the bulbs at least match. The cheaper kits don't even try to do that. THat being said, most of the bulbs for kits come from the same factories in china as bulb making isn't easy. I wrote a long post on the differences between kit bulbs and OEM bulbs over at HIDPlanet, there are a LARGE number of differences.
 






4300k is as close to sunlight as you can get. The light gets more "colorful" the higher you go. 6000K is somewhat white-blue, 8000k is bluish, 10000k and up starts becoming purplish....etc.

It's apparent that the original poster already knew that. He was more interested in knowing if Brand A's 4300K looks like Brand B's 4300K bulb, i.e. are there standards out there.

The answer is a resounding NO. ;)
 






I think I can expand a bit more on this as well. 4300K referring to color comes from the concept of blackbody radiation. Don't worry about the term, for our intents and purposes, it just means something that gets hot and radiates light when it is hot. The thing about this type of radiation is that it has a continuous spectrum, that slowly rises and peaks at a particular frequency then decreases. This peak is directly related to temperature, the higher the temperature the higher the frequency at which the peak occurs. This is why stuff gets red hot, then white hot then blue and so on as it gets higher in temperature. The thing to reiterate is that this spectrum is CONTINUOUS, from IR to UV. HIDs are NOT this way. HIDs are a line emission spectrum, meaning that the emission spectrum is not continuous, it is just a series of lines (I can get into why but no one would really care). Due to it NOT being continuous, it CAN'T have a true color temperature. You can get an approximate, though even then, some colors will not be present and others will be overly present. This is why HIDs "color temp" is so variant. Depending on the approximation it can vary widely.

Another note about the line spectrum. This line spectrum is why HIDs are so efficient compared to halogen bulbs. Due to the spectrum being continuous tungsten bulbs physically HAVE to emit a certain percentage of their light in the IR region. The line spectrum of HIDs allows that percentage to be much lower. More energy can go into the visible region, less is lost as heat. Along with that, this is also why HIDs have a much lower CRI. They don't have the full spectrum so some colors don't appear quite right.
 






Ick. This turned into a physics lecture. I hated physics. ;)
 






Hahaha, I am good at getting very technical. Sometimes though to the point of losing people. I figured maybe someone would find it useful. LOL I guess its just the ADD in me. :D
 






Hahaha, I am good at getting very technical. Sometimes though to the point of losing people. I figured maybe someone would find it useful. LOL I guess its just the ADD in me. :D

yea not to offend i stopped reading half way through the long paragraph you posted haha i hated physics to, i could care less about a light spectrum i just know HID's use a gas instead of a filament and when the gas is heated different you get different color....simple
 






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