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I am about to install a set of HID headlight kit I just ordered off ebay and was wondering if the factory headlights are "projector". I googled and typed it into ebay and factory headlights kept coming up. Also, does anyone run 10000k bulbs in your Trac? I am hoping this will not blind people or get me into trouble with the law. Also, any suggestions about these headlights? Thanks in advance.
 



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nope factory headlights are not projector type. advice on the HIDs, make sure you secure all the connections, loose connections will shorten the life of HIDs and will lead to erratic performance (that is it sometimes turns on and sometimes, they dont:D). use relays also.:D I use 8000k and 8500k in my other vehicles, I think 10000k is just for show as the higher you go up the spectrum, the less use u have for them when there is inclement weather. just my two cents.

by the way, as far as I know in the US 6500k is the legal limit for HID on the streets, just dont know if there has been a change in the regulation already. good luck.:)
 






Well, like shon said, no our headlights are not projector type. With that said, HID's are meant to be run only in projector assembly headlights, as the cut-off point of the light in projectors is much more precise, which keeps the lights from blinding others on the road. HID's are also not legal in any instance other than a factory OEM install, so even though they sell aftermarket kits, almost all of them say "off-road use only" because of this. There are many, many people who run aftermarket HID kits and don't have a problem, but just be aware that you could potentially get in trouble for it if you are blinding people or running a high color temperature bulb (the 'K' stands for Kelvin). 10,000K is extremely blue, and will more than likely get you in trouble with the police. The ideal bulb temp is somewhere in the 5000K to 6500K range, as that is as close to natural daylight as you can get. Here is chart that will give you an idea of what I mean:
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Tom
 






Just be sure to tweak and tweak again so that you're not bling oncoming traffic which is VERY easy to do with these kits. Also, seriously consider 4300K-6000K. Remember, the lower the K, the more useful light. Those high K colours are for looks more than function and frankly, the real blue lights look horrible.

Remember, OEM projectors on Bimmers etc are 4300K. They are very white and do work well in the widest range of conditions. The real blue lights can actually hinder you more than help you in certain conditions (especially rainy/overcast days).

The ideal bulb temp is somewhere in the 5000K to 6500K range



Tom

Actually, any serious HID kit seller will tell you that 4300K is the best colour because it has the most useful light. That's why OEM lights use that colour temp. Someone mentioned that anything over 6000K is "illegal". All kits are illegal. The higher K ratings are just better cop magnets because it's so obvious the HID kit is in there.
 






Thanks you all very much!
Shon, what do you mean relays? Should my kit come with them? I do not think it does this is what it says it comes with XENON HID BULBS X 2
BALLAST X 2
WIRING AND CONNECTOR X 2
MANUAL AND WARRANTY CARD X 1
HEAVY DUTY DOUBLE SIDED TAPE OR MOUNTING BRACKET X 2
STRAPS X 1

Where can I get the relays you talked about?
 






As to what shon referred to with the relays is how you would power the ballasts for the HIDs. Instead of using the existing headlight wiring to power the ballasts, you run power directly from the battery to the ballasts and use a relay, tripped by the existing headlight wiring, to turn on the ballasts. That is just a rough overview of what he meant, not the exact way you do it. The relays you should be able to buy and virtually any auto parts store or online. There are many prefabricated kits on eBay for HID headlights as well.

Tom
 






As to what shon referred to with the relays is how you would power the ballasts for the HIDs. Instead of using the existing headlight wiring to power the ballasts, you run power directly from the battery to the ballasts and use a relay, tripped by the existing headlight wiring, to turn on the ballasts. That is just a rough overview of what he meant, not the exact way you do it. The relays you should be able to buy and virtually any auto parts store or online. There are many prefabricated kits on eBay for HID headlights as well.

Tom


yes, that is precisely the one, basically you can tap the existing wiring to install your HIDs, the problems is when a voltage drop occurs, your HIDs may tun off or blink and that is trouble because that is the number one cause of ballast and igniter problems, you need the relay in order to make sure that constant current is delivered to the ballast. They also serve as some sort of protectors to the ballast.

DonaldBrown: no, normally HID kits do not come with relays, in the instuctions that they ususally come with, they specify that the HID kit can be installed plug and play, so no other requirements needed aside from the ons included in the kit, but to be sure, you should get power directly rom the battery, run it through the relay to get consistent power. by the way, what ballast did you get? did you get the 35watt or the 42 watt ballast? we even have higher ballasts, 55 watts I think, here in the Philippines, higher output, but the chance of short circuits that can damage your truck's headlight wiring assembly is significantly higher when a loose connection occurs, I suggest you stick with the 35 watt ballasts, they are more forgiving to loose connections. good luck.:)

also, I agree with celly, just adjust the lens on your headlight to make sure you do not blind oncoming traffic when the headlights are in dim.
 






DonaldBrown: by the way, to make things simpler, try looking for wiring kits that off-roaders use to accomodate 100w/90w bulbs wth the stock 60w/55w wiring, its a simple bolt on and already has the relays needed, that will make installation of your HIDs a lot simpler, we used that in my dad's car and worked well.:)
 






DonaldBrown: by the way, to make things simpler, try looking for wiring kits that off-roaders use to accomodate 100w/90w bulbs wth the stock 60w/55w wiring, its a simple bolt on and already has the relays needed, that will make installation of your HIDs a lot simpler, we used that in my dad's car and worked well.:)

do you have a link to a place that sells these? i found this on ebay is this what i need? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-Fuse-Gold-Relay-Harness-Wire-Ford-9007-H11-9006-H7_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem380107191304QQitemZ380107191304QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
 






yes, that is precisely the one, basically you can tap the existing wiring to install your HIDs, the problems is when a voltage drop occurs, your HIDs may tun off or blink and that is trouble because that is the number one cause of ballast and igniter problems, you need the relay in order to make sure that constant current is delivered to the ballast. They also serve as some sort of protectors to the ballast.

DonaldBrown: no, normally HID kits do not come with relays, in the instuctions that they ususally come with, they specify that the HID kit can be installed plug and play, so no other requirements needed aside from the ons included in the kit, but to be sure, you should get power directly rom the battery, run it through the relay to get consistent power. by the way, what ballast did you get? did you get the 35watt or the 42 watt ballast? we even have higher ballasts, 55 watts I think, here in the Philippines, higher output, but the chance of short circuits that can damage your truck's headlight wiring assembly is significantly higher when a loose connection occurs, I suggest you stick with the 35 watt ballasts, they are more forgiving to loose connections. good luck.:)

also, I agree with celly, just adjust the lens on your headlight to make sure you do not blind oncoming traffic when the headlights are in dim.


CERTIFICATION: E-MARK AND ISO9001
POWER CONSUMPTION: 35WATTS
VOLTAGE: 85 +/- 17V
LUMINOUS FLUX: 3200
BALLAST CONSTRUCTION: INTERNATIONAL IGNITER
SERVICE LIFE: APPROXIMATLY 3000HOURS
INPUT VOLTAGE: 9V-16V
WORKING CURRENT(Steady state): 3.5 A nom
IGNITION VOLTAGE: 24kV Peak Max, 18kV Peak Min
LAMP FREQUENCY: 450 Hz

I assume its the 35 watt, is that okay?
 






CERTIFICATION: E-MARK AND ISO9001
POWER CONSUMPTION: 35WATTS
VOLTAGE: 85 +/- 17V
LUMINOUS FLUX: 3200
BALLAST CONSTRUCTION: INTERNATIONAL IGNITER
SERVICE LIFE: APPROXIMATLY 3000HOURS
INPUT VOLTAGE: 9V-16V
WORKING CURRENT(Steady state): 3.5 A nom
IGNITION VOLTAGE: 24kV Peak Max, 18kV Peak Min
LAMP FREQUENCY: 450 Hz

I assume its the 35 watt, is that okay?

Looks like it. 35w kits will provide more than adequate output. The seller of the projector headlights I just scored actually recommended that we do NOT use 55w kits in the projectors because of the extra heat generated. Most kits out there are 35w, btw.
 






DonaldBrowm: yes that is the one I am referring to, it makes life a lot easier.:thumbsup: and yes, you got the 35watt ballasr alright, thats a good choice.:)
 






DonaldBrowm: yes that is the one I am referring to, it makes life a lot easier.:thumbsup: and yes, you got the 35watt ballasr alright, thats a good choice.:)

Thank Shon! All you guys have been a big help!:thumbsup: I ordered the relay kit today hopefully it will be in by next week. I am going to start getting anxious with these headlights just sitting here. I will probably have some more dumb questions when it comes time to put everything on.
 






DonaldBrown: its my pleasure. by the way, did you order HIDs for the fog lights too? It came as a surprise for me when I put HIDs on my fog lghts, I thought at first that they would be a waste of money, the fog lamps being so small and all, but I swear, they made a ton of difference, night driving and inclement weather driving has been so easy ever since. just a thought:) Hope everything goes well in your install.:thumbsup:
 






DonaldBrown: its my pleasure. by the way, did you order HIDs for the fog lights too? It came as a surprise for me when I put HIDs on my fog lghts, I thought at first that they would be a waste of money, the fog lamps being so small and all, but I swear, they made a ton of difference, night driving and inclement weather driving has been so easy ever since. just a thought:) Hope everything goes well in your install.:thumbsup:

My truck didn't come with fog lights :( the kit came in today now just waiting on the harness to come in! I am debating on ordering another set of bulbs for back up and also a different color.
 






backup? you will not need them for the next year or two, I have had my HIDs for three years now, and still have had no problems, I drive for around two hours a at night on a daily basis, just dont make it a habbit to turn the ights on and off, especially when you stop at lights, that is what lead to the early degradation of bulbs and the igniter. it would have been nice if you had them on the fog lights too, but since yours did not come with the fog lights, still with the lage reflectorized surface, you willnot be having problems driving at night.:)
 






I had a new HID bulb last all of a few hours last week. Quality does vary wildly with these things. I also like to keep a set around as a backup in case they do burn out. It's not like you can find them at your local parts store for the most part.

They've also come down in price a lot over the last while so it can't hurt to have spares around especially since it's recommended you change both at once in order to keep the lights looking the same (due to colour shifting which is meant to happen with these bulbs).
 






thanks guys just installed them and with the relay wiring harness it made things very easy!!! I am going to order another set in either 5000k or 6000k to keep as back up and to change in case I do not like how the 10000ks look at night. I cannot wait til midnight(when I get off work) tonight so I can ride around and see how they look!:thumbsup::D:salute:
 






could you post where you ended up getting them from?
 



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thanks guys just installed them and with the relay wiring harness it made things very easy!!! I am going to order another set in either 5000k or 6000k to keep as back up and to change in case I do not like how the 10000ks look at night. I cannot wait til midnight(when I get off work) tonight so I can ride around and see how they look!:thumbsup::D:salute:

Make sure to pay attention to the responses of fellow drivers. That's how you know for sure if you've installed them well or not. If you're getting people flashing you and the like, get home and tweak them right away!

Enjoy.
 






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