How do you seperate cv axles?

[Centaurus5.0]

Hi Guys


How do you separate the hub/spindle section of the cv from the shaft?

I removed the circlip and beat on it a bit but it seems like there is another clip holding it on under the cv bearings where you can't get to it.


I want just the end spindle section on (in hubs) to convert awd to 2wd.


Thanks

 

[shucker1]

Possibly a roll pin through the tulip where it mounts to the shaft?

Subaru had those.

A bearing puller should get it off.

Or, hopefully not, the splines are twisted?

 

[koda2000]

With the axle nut removed, the splined end of the axle should just push out of the hub, mind you you'll need to take the steering knuckle loose to be able to extract it all the way.

Are you planning to remove the front diff and swap to 2wd steering knuckles, or are you going to retain the splined end of the axle with the AWD/4WD steering knuckle? You can't just remove the entire CV axle completely (w/out keeping the splined end and axle nut) or the hub will come apart.

Also, with the AWD T-case if the front drive shaft, diff and CV axles are not all present the vehicle will creep when in PARK.

 

[shucker1]

or are you going to retain the splined end of the axle with the AWD/4WD steering knuckle?

Koda,

Sounds to me like that is what Centarus intends to do. I think he wants to separate the drive collar off of the outer side of the shaft.

If I am not mistaken there should be nothing underneath the drive collar like a cir-clip or such.

 

[Turdle]

Hi Guys


How do you separate the hub/spindle section of the cv from the shaft?

I removed the circlip and beat on it a bit but it seems like there is another clip holding it on under the cv bearings where you can't get to it.


I want just the end spindle section on (in hubs) to convert awd to 2wd.


Thanks

Inside this thread there are some pictures which may help.

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums...structions-with-pictures.243651/#post-2190168

 

[Centaurus5.0]

....or are you going to retain the splined end of the axle with the AWD/4WD steering knuckle?

This.


I seen MountaineerGreen's cv install post where he cut them off. Is that what is necessary?


Thanks guys.

 

[shucker1]

NP

 

[koda2000]

Koda,

Sounds to me like that is what Centarus intends to do. I think he wants to separate the drive collar off of the outer side of the shaft.

If I am not mistaken there should be nothing underneath the drive collar like a cir-clip or such.

I just wanted to make sure that is what he intended to do. I know on the drive shaft CV there is a cir-clip that keeps the joint on the shaft, but I don't know about the axles. I'd just cut the joint off if I had to, but it would be nicer to be able to just separate it.

 

[Turdle]

You can separate it easily. Just use the stub shaft with the bearing cup intact.

If the front drive shaft is removed, the inner axles can stay out ( assuming the front diff is cooked , it can drain dry at this point)

All you need is the clamp force on the front bearings, and a wheel chock to keep the truck from creeping away when parked.

 

[koda2000]

You can separate it easily. Just use the stub shaft with the bearing cup intact.

If the front drive shaft is removed, the inner axles can stay out ( assuming the front diff is cooked , it can drain dry at this point)

All you need is the clamp force on the front bearings, and a wheel chock to keep the truck from creeping away when parked.

Yes, there must be a way to take the CV axle apart as they rebuild them after all.

 

[Centaurus5.0]

You can separate it easily. Just use the stub shaft with the bearing cup intact.

Thats what I want to do. How do you separate the stub shaft from from the cv bearings/center cv shaft?

 

[shucker1]

Look at post #5.

Turdle already posted a write up about it as a link.

 

[Centaurus5.0]

Yessir. He showed the disassembly of the diff side of the cv axle but not the wheel/spindle side, which is a different design.

 

[Centaurus5.0]

The inner bearings are serviceable but the outers are not?

 

[shucker1]

Been 20 + years since I played with one and honestly I can remember. "Old Timers" causes that..

The outer ball carrier should come off.

You have the outboard snap ring off.

Is there a inboard snap ring?

Should be to keep it stable in one position on the shaft splines.

Have you tried pulling inboard snap ring off and pushing the ball collar back a little to see if something is hidden?

 

[Centaurus5.0]

I had it all apart 2 weeks ago now and slapped it all back together so I could move it.

There was no room to get behind the bearings to even see if there is a snap ring behind them. When you take the inboard snap ring off it allows the the shaft to slide into the stub abit but wont slide out. I tried turning the shaft while pushed in then tried to slide it out thinking there might be some kind of keyway but got nowhere. I tried everything I could think of besides a cutting wheel.

I just posted the truck for $900 to get ride of it. Don't feel like fixing it either way. If no one buys it in a week, I'm going to leisurely take it apart in the garage over the winter then put the headers and detroit diff on the Centaurus in the spring (if it doesn't sell either).

 

[Nightmare1508]

I just did this tonight on my 2001 Explorer. I removed the lock ring and beat the piss out of it and had no luck. So i took a cutting wheel and cut the bearing cage so the steel balls fell out. Then the shaft came out and the rest of the cage. I degreased it and inspected it, didn't see any way to get it apart for the other side. So...as you can guess i spent the 5 minutes cutting the cage on the other side. Slapped it all back together and shes back on the road. I parked it in a steep driveway at my buddies for 2 hours..never creeped at all. I'll keep a block with it for now just as a precaution. Does a nice burnout btw..lol