"TURDLE" or " How to mess up a perfectly good truck"

**Turdle** · 10-22-2006, 11:08 AM

Well, it is about time I do this
This is our 1998 Mountaineer.
We acquired it in late 2000, with 29 k on the odometer. Previously it prowled the Oklahoma turnpike as an unmarked police cruiser.

I would say it was about June-2001, when the initial madness set in, and I became obsessed with changing the looks.
I found Explorer Express, Where I scored the x-spec suspension.
After talking with John V., I learned of the Apten group buy here, and the rest is as they say, history.
In June of 2002, I acquired an exhaust leak. Being the expert I thought I was, I bought a header gasket set, went to fix it.
Well, in my thinking I didn't have the front bolt tight enough, I snapped it off into the head---ooops.
After pouting about this for awhile, I decided to really get into this site for answers.
The result--

347 cubic inch, stroked and bored engine

FMS sportsman block-bored .030 over and machined for stroke
Billet crankshaft with chev rod journals
H-beam ultra light rods
Probe PRS forged pistons -9cc dish ( slightly over 10:1 compression)
Melling stock volume oil pump
Edelbrock performer efi heads 2.02 intake, 1.60 ex valve 58cc chambers
Crane's roller lifters--billet aluminum lifter guides
Crane's roller rockers
comp cams pushrods
Cloyes true billet double timing set.
FMS X-303 camshaft, advanced 4 degrees
Professional products Typhoon intake and EGR elbow, with 1" phenolic spacer
FMS 42 lb injectors
Aeromotive fuel rails, boost reference regulator ( currently set to 43 psi.)
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump--return style 3402
Lightning MAF
Torquemonster headers--stock exhaust with rear cats removed--magnaflow dula in single out-Hooker Aerochamber stacked right behind, 3" mandrel bent MAC tailpipe.
Art Carr 3000 RPM flash lockup converter ( 10 " billet housing)
Art Carr built valvebody kit
Amsoil fluids in all otherwise stock components. ( since I change my oil early and often, I use the least expensive synthetic oil. Usually Amsoil, but sometimes I will use Mobil 1)

AWD IS OUT!! 4406 4X4 IS IN!
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=166726

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ghlight=turdle

UPDATE
As of 2-17-08
I mentioned the truck being a poilice cruiser in it's first life-
well, this caused a little "glitch"
While the PCM says it is a NRT1 box code, somewhere along the line a police code was flashed into the PCM.
My original paperwork shows a dealer service call for a PCM reflash right before the title was signed over. I am assuming the police tune was recovered, and a stock tune re loaded.
However,
they didn't mention they loaded it with a MC2O box code.
After 2 trials with the initial run tune, I actually read the box code with the XCAL2 and James deteremined This error.

Once this was figured out-the tuning was ON!!!

Baseline tuning is complete and all is well. I'm waiting on a new Innovate LM-1 wideband for WOT tuning.
Somehow mine took a dump,
I spent a whole day trying to figure it out. If it had been operating though it would have been a breeze.

James ( jah81592) is about the best help a guy could ask for in this area.

www.hensonperformance.com

UPDATE 2
Tuning complete-after a few WOT pulls to 6000 rpm's
James has not only achieved a great tune in my truck, but totally eliminated the surging issues I was experiencing.

UPDATE 3

Truck now lifted for trip to Colorado Gold mine trails--page8

Update 4
colorado trip completed-Imogene pass and Black bear pass have been driven in this truck
woo hoo!!
picture of black bear pass-

update 5
On Sept 19, 2008 Went to KCIR and ran a 14.8 @ 90mph---2.002 60 ft time
I was snoozing and did everything wrong. It has more in it.

Update 6

After drooling over Mountaineergreen's extensive suspension mod list for years-

With a feeling of guilt, for not doing the actual work myself, I have acquired his

4" superlift suspension lift,
410 gears
aussie locker in rear
disconnect front diff--- http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=188359
double cardan front drive shaft ---http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185232

285-75-16" cooper discovery sst (33") tires

UPDATE 7

Exhaust Dumps installed 4-15-2009
These allow the exhaust to be opened right after the cats.

new pics as of 3-16 2009

update 8

Added another stock trans cooler beside original, installed hard lines and twin 10" cooling fans

They seemed to work just fine

Update 9

Sliders installed!!!

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...hlight=sliders

I used Smoked chrome powder coat on front and rear bumpers, sliders, and wheels make for a factory look match
Bumper pictures are before slider install-

Next up--Get rid of torsion bar drop brackets, and, the bars themselves.

I also have some mild white neon tube rock lights, some very bright 55w rock lights, and, 6 rock llight of death tubes ( to be shown later)

stay tuned!!

**Turdle** · 10-22-2006, 11:15 AM

Here are more pics

some inside thingys of the bolt on nature

everythintech · 10-22-2006, 11:17 AM

nice mounty man, im lovin the engine

**section525** · 10-22-2006, 12:29 PM

Very very sick!

How about some #s?

**Turdle** · 10-22-2006, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by section525

Very very sick!

How about some #s?

sure
wifes attorney 620-365-4100
allen county divorce court 620-365-4100

just kidding, although at times It was close

02_ex_on_dubs · 10-22-2006, 01:04 PM

very nice ride...how long did it take from start to finish? post some dyno or 1/4 mile numbers...

'97 V8 · 10-22-2006, 01:08 PM

That motor is sex! So finally i know how it all started...a broken manifold bolt.

*eXplorerchic* · 10-22-2006, 04:03 PM

Nice!

**Turdle** · 10-23-2006, 07:22 PM

I have not been to A dyno yet, although I do plan to.
There is an issue I am working on. I have borrowed a scanatool interface, however my laptop just died last week. As soon as I can get it fixed I will be collecting data, and hopefully haing a good tune sent to me.

Thanks for the compliments,
There is more to come for for this truck, although a bit slow for sure

**MountaineerGreen** · 10-23-2006, 09:47 PM

Its about time you got some pictures up! Very nice work and clean look!

Dyno numbers will be easier to obtain with a BW4406 swap-

nudge nudge

*celly* · 10-23-2006, 10:40 PM

Lookin' good jonnie.

**Turdle** · 10-25-2006, 11:06 PM

For sound, I have a Sony HU
Mtx 2200 sub amp
sony mid high
clarion components
Polk 10 sub in stock box, which I modified.

Tires Are Cooper Cobra GT's 275-60 17,
Eagle Alloy 17x9 Cobra replcas, polished.

conig · 10-26-2006, 02:24 PM

looks great john, I think it needs some TV's to be complete though just my 2 cents. =P

everythintech · 10-29-2006, 07:42 PM

how about some specs on your drop?

**Turdle** · 10-29-2006, 08:06 PM

edit-Saved for info only--truck is now lifted-- edit---

Quote:

Originally Posted by everythintech

how about some specs on your drop?

Nothing special really
Just the EE x-spec kit, flipped keys in front with a dimple cut, bolts in just enough to secure and level, bump stops shaved off 1"
My fenders are exactly 30" to ground, front and rear.
From the side, it gives a slight rake to the running boards, which are 1/2 " higher in rear

I believe it is the tire size filling the wheelwells, which make it seem lower

mrpeaches · 10-31-2006, 09:56 PM

that is quite the sexy truck you have there sir

410Fortune · 11-01-2006, 10:00 AM

Any upgrades to the brakes? hehehe

**Turdle** · 11-01-2006, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 410Fortune

Any upgrades to the brakes? hehehe

ummm, well they are painted black.
I did replace all pads and rotors, about 5k ago, flushed all fluid and used dot 4---other than that
I rarely break 70 mph, and have all kinds of data to prove it.

I do want to try powerslot rotors, and Hawk pads though---

*Dan Whitaker* · 11-01-2006, 10:35 AM

Quote:

I do want to try powerslot rotors, and Hawk pads though

I plan on doing this spring of '07. It will be $500 for 4 rotors & both sets of pads from Summit.

I would like to go SS brake lines but I have only found one place that makes them & they want $280 for a set

So I will go with new rubber hoses instead.

*Limited02* · 11-01-2006, 11:07 AM

Awesome Explorer. My brother-in-Law races at Humboldt raceway every friday. His name is Jessy Willard. I am from Mound City. I would say you are putting down more or less 325 at the wheels with your combo being you are all-wheel drive. Looks great. I would love to come out for a ride sometime.

10-22-2006, 11:08 AM	#1
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,738 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	"TURDLE" or " How to mess up a perfectly good truck" Well, it is about time I do this This is our 1998 Mountaineer. We acquired it in late 2000, with 29 k on the odometer. Previously it prowled the Oklahoma turnpike as an unmarked police cruiser. I would say it was about June-2001, when the initial madness set in, and I became obsessed with changing the looks. I found Explorer Express, Where I scored the x-spec suspension. After talking with John V., I learned of the Apten group buy here, and the rest is as they say, history. In June of 2002, I acquired an exhaust leak. Being the expert I thought I was, I bought a header gasket set, went to fix it. Well, in my thinking I didn't have the front bolt tight enough, I snapped it off into the head---ooops. After pouting about this for awhile, I decided to really get into this site for answers. The result-- 347 cubic inch, stroked and bored engine FMS sportsman block-bored .030 over and machined for stroke Billet crankshaft with chev rod journals H-beam ultra light rods Probe PRS forged pistons -9cc dish ( slightly over 10:1 compression) Melling stock volume oil pump Edelbrock performer efi heads 2.02 intake, 1.60 ex valve 58cc chambers Crane's roller lifters--billet aluminum lifter guides Crane's roller rockers comp cams pushrods Cloyes true billet double timing set. FMS X-303 camshaft, advanced 4 degrees Professional products Typhoon intake and EGR elbow, with 1" phenolic spacer FMS 42 lb injectors Aeromotive fuel rails, boost reference regulator ( currently set to 43 psi.) Walbro 255LPH fuel pump--return style 3402 Lightning MAF Torquemonster headers--stock exhaust with rear cats removed--magnaflow dula in single out-Hooker Aerochamber stacked right behind, 3" mandrel bent MAC tailpipe. Art Carr 3000 RPM flash lockup converter ( 10 " billet housing) Art Carr built valvebody kit Amsoil fluids in all otherwise stock components. ( since I change my oil early and often, I use the least expensive synthetic oil. Usually Amsoil, but sometimes I will use Mobil 1) AWD IS OUT!! 4406 4X4 IS IN! http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=166726 http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...ghlight=turdle UPDATE As of 2-17-08 I mentioned the truck being a poilice cruiser in it's first life- well, this caused a little "glitch" While the PCM says it is a NRT1 box code, somewhere along the line a police code was flashed into the PCM. My original paperwork shows a dealer service call for a PCM reflash right before the title was signed over. I am assuming the police tune was recovered, and a stock tune re loaded. However, they didn't mention they loaded it with a MC2O box code. After 2 trials with the initial run tune, I actually read the box code with the XCAL2 and James deteremined This error. Once this was figured out-the tuning was ON!!! Baseline tuning is complete and all is well. I'm waiting on a new Innovate LM-1 wideband for WOT tuning. Somehow mine took a dump, I spent a whole day trying to figure it out. If it had been operating though it would have been a breeze. James ( jah81592) is about the best help a guy could ask for in this area. www.hensonperformance.com UPDATE 2 Tuning complete-after a few WOT pulls to 6000 rpm's James has not only achieved a great tune in my truck, but totally eliminated the surging issues I was experiencing. UPDATE 3 Truck now lifted for trip to Colorado Gold mine trails--page8 Update 4 colorado trip completed-Imogene pass and Black bear pass have been driven in this truck woo hoo!! picture of black bear pass- update 5 On Sept 19, 2008 Went to KCIR and ran a 14.8 @ 90mph---2.002 60 ft time I was snoozing and did everything wrong. It has more in it. Update 6 After drooling over Mountaineergreen's extensive suspension mod list for years- With a feeling of guilt, for not doing the actual work myself, I have acquired his 4" superlift suspension lift, 410 gears aussie locker in rear disconnect front diff--- http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=188359 double cardan front drive shaft ---http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185232 285-75-16" cooper discovery sst (33") tires UPDATE 7 Exhaust Dumps installed 4-15-2009 These allow the exhaust to be opened right after the cats. new pics as of 3-16 2009 update 8 Added another stock trans cooler beside original, installed hard lines and twin 10" cooling fans They seemed to work just fine Update 9 Sliders installed!!! http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...hlight=sliders I used Smoked chrome powder coat on front and rear bumpers, sliders, and wheels make for a factory look match Bumper pictures are before slider install- Next up--Get rid of torsion bar drop brackets, and, the bars themselves. I also have some mild white neon tube rock lights, some very bright 55w rock lights, and, 6 rock llight of death tubes ( to be shown later) stay tuned!! __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also Last edited by Turdle; 06-06-2009 at 08:57 AM.

10-22-2006, 11:15 AM	#2
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,738 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Here are more pics some inside thingys of the bolt on nature Attached Images __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also Last edited by Turdle; 06-06-2009 at 08:42 AM.

10-22-2006, 11:17 AM	#3
everythintech Wannabe Elite Explorer Lynnwood, Wa '98 XLT Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 816 Vehicle Specs	nice mounty man, im lovin the engine __________________ 2003 Mustang Cobra 505rwhp old toys: 98 Ford Expo 5.0 My Write Ups: My snorkel build Herculined interior

10-22-2006, 12:29 PM	#4
section525 sextion525 Red Bluff, Ca 1975 Ford Bronco 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 14,909 Vehicle Specs	Very very sick! How about some #s? __________________ Support the Forum '13 3.5 Explorer '08 2.0 Focus '75 5.0 Bronco '04 6.0 Super Duty

10-22-2006, 01:04 PM	#6
02_ex_on_dubs Wannabe Elite Explorer Boca Raton, FL 02' xlt Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 177 Vehicle Specs	very nice ride...how long did it take from start to finish? post some dyno or 1/4 mile numbers... __________________ http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...cture039-1.jpg

10-22-2006, 01:08 PM	#7
'97 V8 Wannabe Elite Explorer Lima, Ohio '97 mounty 5.0 4x4 baby!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,696 Vehicle Specs	That motor is sex! So finally i know how it all started...a broken manifold bolt. __________________ 1997 Mercury Mountaineer 4x4 V8 3" bl, manual t-case. Dana 60/14 bolt combo with 36x13.5x17 iroks on H2 rims. 5.13's. Future plan: 3.9 or 5.9 Turbo diesel cummins

10-22-2006, 04:03 PM	#8
eXplorerchic Elite Explorer Babe sXc Member Decatur, AL 2000 Sport Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,095 Vehicle Specs	Nice! __________________ *'Bad Girls, need Bad Toys!'*

10-23-2006, 07:22 PM	#9
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,738 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	I have not been to A dyno yet, although I do plan to. There is an issue I am working on. I have borrowed a scanatool interface, however my laptop just died last week. As soon as I can get it fixed I will be collecting data, and hopefully haing a good tune sent to me. Thanks for the compliments, There is more to come for for this truck, although a bit slow for sure __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

10-23-2006, 09:47 PM	#10
MountaineerGreen Towing Moderator North East Arkansas 2012 F150 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7,589 Vehicle Specs	Its about time you got some pictures up! Very nice work and clean look! Dyno numbers will be easier to obtain with a BW4406 swap- nudge nudge __________________ -Evan Febuary 09 Feature Truck - Elite Registry - Photo Gallery - Feedback - Go Elite! - My Write Ups - EF Vendors

10-25-2006, 11:06 PM	#12
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,738 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	For sound, I have a Sony HU Mtx 2200 sub amp sony mid high clarion components Polk 10 sub in stock box, which I modified. Tires Are Cooper Cobra GT's 275-60 17, Eagle Alloy 17x9 Cobra replcas, polished. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also Last edited by Turdle; 09-28-2009 at 09:22 PM.

10-26-2006, 02:24 PM	#13
conig Wannabe Elite Explorer tallahassee fl. 96 v8 xlt. Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 340 Vehicle Specs	looks great john, I think it needs some TV's to be complete though just my 2 cents. =P

10-29-2006, 07:42 PM	#14
everythintech Wannabe Elite Explorer Lynnwood, Wa '98 XLT Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 816 Vehicle Specs	how about some specs on your drop? __________________ 2003 Mustang Cobra 505rwhp old toys: 98 Ford Expo 5.0 My Write Ups: My snorkel build Herculined interior

10-31-2006, 09:56 PM	#16
mrpeaches Wannabe Elite Explorer parma, ohio (cleveland) '00 Sport Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 145 Vehicle Specs	that is quite the sexy truck you have there sir __________________ '00 sport: ohv 2wd

11-01-2006, 10:00 AM	#17
410Fortune ELITE BRONCO2ERER Crawlorado B2 Mod Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 22,099 Vehicle Specs	Any upgrades to the brakes? hehehe __________________ 96 Explorer daily driver build-1996 XLT 5.0L AWD to 4x4 conversion complete on 33's 88 BII 5.0L conversion - BII 5.0l drivetrain thread My Bronco II - 1988 Bronco II 4x4 V8 on 35's - registry and updates Wifes 07 FJ build - 2007 FJ cruiser locked and lifted

11-01-2006, 11:07 AM	#20
Limited02 Wanna Race? Gardner, KS '02 Limited V8 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,091 Vehicle Specs	Awesome Explorer. My brother-in-Law races at Humboldt raceway every friday. His name is Jessy Willard. I am from Mound City. I would say you are putting down more or less 325 at the wheels with your combo being you are all-wheel drive. Looks great. I would love to come out for a ride sometime.