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Ok audio guys, this goes out to all the people who are wanting to upgrade stereo and dont really know what to do.

Rule # 1 - do not try to buy cheap stuff to save money

you will end up spending more in the end because you will have to take the cheap **** out to replace with decent stuff and will be stuck with worthless cheap ****

Rule # 2 - Know this order of doing stuff if you don't have alot of money to spend all at one time

1st - upgrade your factory speakers
2nd - aftermarket head unit
3rd - amp and subs


I see so many people get on here saying " I have 200 bucks and want a bumpin system, how do I hook up subs to factory HU"

NO NO NO !

do it gradually as you get enough money to buy quality stuff, you will be much happier in the end I promise.
 



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thanks man. good write up. i was planning on hooking up my xtant 1200 watt amp and my two eclipse titaniums to my stock two nobber, but now i know better ;)
 






swap 1 and 2 (upgrade list) IMHO.


Definetly agree with the cheapo stuff rule... I'm a victim myself :banghead:
 






To explain the reasoning behind this:

Upgrade your speakers, perhaps some components!

This is the core of any system, and should be first to your attention. Like mentioned, don't go cheap. If you find $20 speakers on eBay, great, don't get them. I highly suggest anyone interested in upgrading their system before asking for opinions to take a drive by a few car stereo shops, or if this isn't plausible to you, I'd only suggest Good Guys over any other poor retail store. While doing this, find the type of speaker you like (vocal, mixed, heavier on bass, etc). I suggest you bring a pen and paper along with you and write these model numbers down. You will find all this equipment almost half off online, I promise you. From here on out, you know what you like, and should pursue it, no one knows your taste, and it's extremely hard to recommend a brand as everyone likes different tones. As far as installation goes, I left this to a professional installer. Personally, I just didn't have the time to take the front doors off, and ended up paying $50 to get it done, but you could just as easily do this yourself with a little searching on the forum.

The reasoning behind doing these first, is that your stock HU can still push enough power to give your aftermarket speakers some juice, while on the contrary, you will most likely blow your stock speakers with an aftermarket HU first, while sounding horrible.


Headunit time

Once again, I suggest you take that trip around town. Looks will come into play here, but quality needs to be asserted as well. You should look for: preout voltages, RCA outputs (and inputs), compatibility with MP3/WMA, XM ready (if this is what you're looking for) and ease of use. Some claim to have 4v or even 8v preouts, some are true, some are not. The most popular and reputable brands would have to be Pioneer, Eclipse, Panasonic, JVC, Clarion, Kenwood and perhaps even Sony. Find one you like, and order!


Boom Boom

This is a toughie. There's so many to choose from, you really gotta do your research. This is where quality plays a huge part. Some key things to look for are: RMS ratings on both amplifiers and subwoofers (NOT max power), sensitivity and efficiency. Me personally, I'm a fan of DVC (dual voice coil) subs, they've treated me better than SVCs. Never overpower your subs, and in return, don't underpower. Give them what they need to function correctly. Overpowering isn't bad as long as its within a limit, but I wouldn't put a JL 1200/1 on a 400W RMS sub or some kind, if you know what I mean.

Install is up to you. I did mine myself, little elbow grease and time and it can be done in 30 minutes. Depending on your system, you'll be looking to run 8ga all the way up to 0ga wiring. I'm not even sure where else to go with this topic, it's completely huge.

Just make sure you get/build a box to the specs and tuned to your subs specs, it makes ALL the difference in the world. And I wish you good luck.


The key of any system is that if you're going to do it, do it right the first time.

Don't hesitate to use the "Search" feature here, almost everything has been covered and is answered.

EDIT:
I don't think 1 & 2 should be swapped. I had all mine done at once, but have done things this way in my friends Lightning and I'm glad I did. The stock speakers can only be pushed so far, that is, if you tend to listen to your music loud. Any aftermarket speaker will sound better on the stock HU than the contrary. I think it should be all done at once, but that's me.
 






Personally I dont need to push my system that far. And I wanted the mp3 features of the Panasonic decks with the option of going sirus down the road. And my Mountaineer came with the top of the line ford audio system, which packs good enough speakers for what I need. Now if I had the low end ford factorys I would probably change them out. But the higher end ones fill my needs just fine. If I ever do push them to far and blow them, then I figure it is time to upgrade the speakers.
 






thanks guys, this is closer to what I was looking for for "audio 101".
could you talk about caps, crossovers, EQ's, installation techniques and such, and what about "component speakers"
 






This was an interesting thread since some of us have no clue where to start. Since some of you are versed in these matters maybe you could answer something for me. In time it would be nice to replace everything but currently I just want my sub to work, I have been told that it is most likely just the amp that doesn't work and would like some feedback to which kind of amp would be best to just make a switch. Everything is going to be stock from HU on down to sub. I just want to be able to pull the panel off, remove the amp and plug in another amp, currently not looking for anything more. Any suggestions form the guruu around here? :chug:
 






nice thread in all, i agree with everything except the changing the speakers first, i just pulled the stock headunit and put a new one in, i'm in the middle of tearing out the stock amp and so far the stock speakers handle the new power with out a problem. i'm not saying u have to do a head unit first or what not, u don't have to do it in that order u can do it on ur budget an by what u need first. In my case my 6 disk died and i needed a new head unit, so i got it, but this is a good thread for people that don't know were to begin. Good Idea
 






May I add ?
Take your time and do it right.
I have seen many vehicles with wire just laying every where. Amps not secured.
I have even seen power cable running out from under the hood through the drivers door !!!!
Show your Ex some respect, keep it neat, keep it clean, don't rush.
If ya don't finish today, then work some more tomorrow.
 






This thread should be a sticky.
 






MONMIX said:
May I add ?
Take your time and do it right.
I have seen many vehicles with wire just laying every where. Amps not secured.
I have even seen power cable running out from under the hood through the drivers door !!!!
Show your Ex some respect, keep it neat, keep it clean, don't rush.
If ya don't finish today, then work some more tomorrow.
Yea, even if it takes 6 months to complete, it will be well worth the wait, LOL. Dang installers, they want everything just right, LOL. Yadda Yadda Yadda, LOL
Make sure to throw in Alpine into the catergory of quality. Also your HU depends allot on which aux you want, XM or Sirrus. So get all of your ducks togeather and in a row before you start and know the exact direction you are heading. I would like to think I have done enough research on my equipment that it will all blend togeather nicely. Will let yall know soon.
 






I slightly disagree.

With just the front speakers upgraded in mine I threw in a (decent quality) budget amp and sub. I didn't have the money for a new HU at the time. I kept it this way for a few years with the stock HU and I was happy with the sound. However, when I upgraded the HU I upgraded the speakers all around and got a new sub.
 






I am a strong believer in "doing it right"; if you can't aford to do it right, don't waste your money doing it cheap, save till you can do it right.
 






Well we're not all as wealthy as you, Al.

I didn't say I had the best setup, but it worked very well for me. Of course I didn't get sh!tbrand stuff and installed it right.
 






I think whatever you're looking for should be done first. Its all based up your needs. But I do agree with going cheap. I don't agree with going for top of the line though.
 






"Doing it right" does not mean top of the line; it means not cheap junk.

I would never purchase top of the line audio equipment; its not important to me. but I will never have cheap junk either.
 






Ok, don't have to get defensive, I wasn't even commenting on what you said. Calm down chief!
 






Here is my 2 cents

"Doing it right" goes to a certain extent. If "Doing it right" to one person is getting all quality stuff then no i disagree with that. That isnt "Doing it right" Doing it Right is installing everything right, dont half ass **** because your lazy. Your going to be sorry in the end.

As for top of the line, I dont have top of the line but I am DAMN happy with what I got.(Pioneer, Hifonics, SI) Some people dont want loud but they just want something more than what they have now, does that mean they have to go alpine or xtant to get there? No. So what if they use say a Profile amp, does that mean they arent doing it right?

As for the order, I say first H/U, then speakers, then sub and amp. Why get speakers first if your stock head unit couldnt push them? Some people just want mp3 but dont like to crank their music, so why get better speakers? This thread is going to be like politics, we could argue all day....

"I see so many people get on here saying " I have 200 bucks and want a bumpin system, how do I hook up subs to factory HU"

Whats wrong with that? Some people cant afford an aftermarket H/U but really want bass so let them be, it still works. If people ask me if it can be done i tell them,"Yes I can but once you get that aftermarket h/u, you are going to notice a HUGE difference" Usually people asking that question are newbies who have no idea what they want they just want bump. I bet you if you hooked subs and an amp to their factory h/u they will love it, because I know I did in the beginning

now, Bring on the flames!
 






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