I get it, i was just confused on the whole torsion bars on the 2wd. I have an older 4wd chevy that is lifted, so I am not totally new to the suspension game, but still a little uncertain. If I do get an explorer, it wont be for a couple of months, but I ould probably do a suspension and body lift to get the height I want. Thanks, you helped me out. now the search for the ex begins.