MY trucks issues

[SaleenEXP]

Originally posted by DeagleDave
well you've exhausted all of our ideas....

CALL AN EXORCIST!

lol, aren't you studying to be a priest? You could perform it

Dark - I'm not sure about the rattling thing, but on my 94' my right side passenger door vibrates a little from the resonation of my flowmasters once in a awhile. But, thats probably b/c it's been through 3 serious accidents, one cost almost 5,800 one was about 4,000 and another was 2,000 each time they decided not to total it, so it's not exactly as tight as when we first got it

At least each car I hit or hit me (none on my fualt btw) was totaled, I split a toyota pickup in 2 pieces, and I completley demolished a Mustang that cut me off, but the Pole didn't get any damage - it fugged up my truck though

Not sure about your situation though

 

[DeagleDave]

studying to be a priest? no my father is a pastor, and i'm a pastor's kid so i would probably only bring more problems.

 

[SaleenEXP]

Originally posted by DeagleDave
studying to be a priest? no my father is a pastor, and i'm a pastor's kid so i would probably only bring more problems.

I was wondering about that, couldn't remember if you said you were studying to be a priest. Then I'm like reading that thread on what we all did in hs/college, and you were as crazy as we were, and I'm like this dudes gonna be a priest lol, sorry for the mix up, heh

 

[Robert]

If you heard it shift on the dyno then he didn't use the proper gear. If he would have put it in 2 it shouldn't have shifted. It's possible that the V8 starts in 1 and then shifts to 2 though so at the most you should have only heard one shift. On my 5R55E when it is put in 2, it starts off in 3rd (because mine is a 5-speed) and stays there all the way to red-line.

What about going back to the shop and asking them real nicely what gear they should run a vehicle in on the dyno. If they say 2, then mention (again real nicely) that you think they might have ran yours in D or OD since you heard several shifts as the speed was building up. They might be nice and say to bring it in again and they'll rerun it. If they say that it should be in D or OD then there is no hope for that shop and nothing you say will convince them so you shouldn't waste any more time with them. Try and find a dyno that is ran by people that know what they are doing.

 

[TPLYNCH]

Hey DarkFox.... Someone very recently posted a thread about their 5.0 being sluggish, and when I read it and read how it was fixed, I immediately thought of you.... but I couldn't remember your username to post and tell you to take a look. I swear this was a thread started in the last 10 days. Anybody else remember the thread Im thinking of???

EDIT:

I found it! http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=62314

 

[V8-X]

I actually posted the message that is referred to in the previous column by "TPLYNCH". I did have the truck (99 X 5.0 AWD) in at the Ford dealer just over a week ago. I was having the same exact problems as you are describing, I mean exactly. As the RPM's increase, the accelerator gets stiffer as stated before. Low end RPM's (under 2000), there is little to no response when accelerating (unless I floor it). When letting off the gas as well, the MPH & RPM's would drop immediatly by about 5mph or 500rpm's. Since this problems started, the idle when starting cold runs really high (1200-1300 RPM's) until it warms up. The dealer barely looked at the truck that day, cleaned the MAF & recalibrated the PCM. This seemed to help somewhat with power, but the problem is still there. It's just a little less noticable now. Usually this is right after it shifts to the next gear. I have had this truck in two different dealers, with no answer on what the problem might be. I am planning on taking it back to the last dealer and having them perform another diagnosis. Since I paid them $108 of my hard earned money, I'm going to keep on them until they find a resolution. As you stated, this truck doesn't have the seat of the pants acceleration that it once had. And it's a V8, makes you wonder. I'll keep everyone posted with any further information that I come across and vice versa if you don't mind.

 

[SaleenEXP]

They should have put the lever in 2nd and ran it on the dyno like that, thats what every shop here would have done to an auto car/truck....

If a V8 Explorer is over 9 seconds to get to 60 when stock, something is definitley a miss, I just had an encounter today with a modded ML430

 

[james t]

darkfox- your X is not supposed to idle high because it is cold. the thing doesnt have a carb! mine NEVER idles high, i dont care how cold it is. well, now you have another problem to add to the list.

 

[DarkFox1]

dont take this wrong...

but FINALLY IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!


lol

irritating isn't it? Shops over and over again tell me "its fine" and then charge me $100..

I had my TB cleaned not too long ago. the pedal moves easier now but it has not fixed the problem by any means. computer reset a hundred times.

I can recall back.. a long time ago.. my PCM was reflashed.. it took ford almost 2 hours to do and cost me $250. the problem at the time.. the truck would not idle cold.. it would shut off unless you stayed on the throttle.. I cannot pinpoint my problems to this.. but I do recall this being done.

Shortly after that I had a plug wire that died under heavy load, low RPMs climbing a hill the truck would skip.. that was fixed anbd they replaced all wires and plugs at the time.

btw I too have geos passing me when I'm working my trucks butt off...

I've been to 1 transimssion shop ford more times than I care to count and 2 independant shops on this issue, nothing has came back unusual.. except my dyno #s.. but the guys say they're not very accurate.. so even then I'm not sure how much help they are.

The tranny shop did not open my tranny up, only drive it.. he concluded that it was very sluggish.. recommended a backpressure test.. which.. as you said about yours.. returned tha the cats were fine.

I was recommended PCV FPR and all the items you have replaced.. but have not replaced them.. You said yours did not fix the problem, so... I guess I can sort of put those possible solutions aside.

in all honesty I'm about ready to just get a supercharger to get some more power so this tihng will move.

v8-x thanks for posting, and TPLYNCH for finding that thread for me.. I would have commented on that htread, but apparently when it was started I passesd it over.

lemme know what yall find. I'm waiting on some money and some free time for mine before it starts making its rounds to the shops again. I'm considering having the tranny shop drop the pan and take a look. But I dont know how much that will cost.. and as a college student.. money is a pretty big issue heh

James are you sure? my truck idles at 1100 rpm in the current weather (49 degrees out there today) I dont know.. but I think its always done this

cold weather it idles at 1100.. warm weather it idles 500-700

 

[SaleenEXP]

uhhh..I wouldn't through a charger or anything on your truck, considering the way it's running, what if by chance it's something with the engine or something else and your engine basically cracks it's block or blows, cam disintigrates lol, ect.., might just happen considering this is your truck I just would not risk it, with the way your tranny is acting you can bet you need another one quickly after the install, I think it's too much of a risk to do it and cause something else that might happen to totally put you in debt

 

[DarkFox1]

bah, at least we'd find out what the weakest link is

 

[SaleenEXP]

Originally posted by DarkFox1
bah, at least we'd find out what the weakest link is

lol, true, it would have to be only two things. Engine or trans, engines blows = you in debt

 

[james t]

darkfox- i got off work this morning after working twelve hours, and mine idled at the usual 700 before i left the parking lot. it was 33 degrees. it is in the 40's now, and i could go crank it and it will immediatly idle at 700. it should not EVER idle high.

 

[DarkFox1]

uuh......

weird..

well I dont know if its always done this.. but I TIHNK it has.. I really couldn't hear it idling with my stock exhaust.. bu tI hear it well with my flows..

thats what the ford tech told me.. he told me I thought it was slower cos I could hear it now.. garbage...

does everyones truck idle the same reguardless? every vehicle we have idles higher cos its cold.. even the towncar.. then again the town cars not a picture of perfection either.


no if the engine blows.. I'll drive my belair for a few until I get me a nice crate

 

[V8-X]

My X has always idled high on cold starts, but never over 900-1000 RPM's when cold. Since the problem started, the idle now runs about 1200-1300rpms (when cold) and there is a bad vibration felt through the truck (seats, steering wheel, etc...), until it warms up.

I would say back prior to July, my X 5.0 ran around 10 sec 0-60, but since the problem started I'm lucky to get 15-16 sec 0-60 floored.

I am also thinking that it may be a Tranny problem, but with the holidays & also being a College student it's kind of hard at the current time.

DarkFox1-Sounds like the same truck, same problem, same results from the dealer. I received the same results from AAmco. They only test drove it, determined it to be a little sluggish, and referred me to have a backpressure test done to check for a clogged Cat. Ford ruled that out.

Keep us posted with any updates, as I will as well. Funny how Ford can't even find a the problem, and they built the truck. Getting frustrating. Thanks for the help everyone!

 

[Alec]

Mine sometimes idles high when it's cold and it's less than 50 degrees outside. Only does this for a minute or 2 though. Once the motor is warm at all, it will not idle high.

Oh, and I'm only talking up about 300 RPM.

 

[SaleenEXP]

dude, I think your dealership is screwing your truck up, you have what sounds like the most incompetent dealership in the country, they tell you everythings fine, that it's normal for an 5.0 Explorer to take more than 10 seconds to 60, 5.0 Explorers are slow, your trans is fine, it's slower cause you can hear the exhaust LMAO ,....ECT.

Bring your truck to our dealer

 

[DarkFox1]

when its cold outside my truck always idles 1100 even once it warms up

15-16 sec? OUCH! I feel your pain, my truck does that when its warm outside.. but since its like.. really cold now it does it in about 10-12..

I too feel that way v8.. infact for a while I was totally hating on ford.. saying lots of tihngs I probally shouldn't have said about the overall quality of their products.. its a real PITA when the auto maker can't find wats wrong with their own creation.

Every time I go to my dealer about this. .the guy at the counter (bob or something) calls out jim.. the @sshole.. er I mean the "transmission tech" who proceeds to get in my face, tell me I know nothing about the truck, hes the expert, I'm not, he works on fords all day, he knows whats going on and I should get a faster car if I feel that the mountaineer is too slow, because I'm just asking too much of it.

I really hate that guy.. this is the man who built the transmission that is i nhe truck now.. he is the same person that told me my exhaust made me think its slow, he is the same person that told me the 4R70W was a terrible and "picky" transmission...

 

[V8-X]

Can anybody recommend a good dealer or shop in the Denver Metro (Colorado) area?

I feel your pain DarkFox1 - I've received the same attitude from both techs that looked at the truck, and they were from different dealerships. I hate that these techs state one thing, but don't drive the truck on a day to day basis to understand and notice the problem. They must take a 5minute drive around the parking lot and assume all is okay.

Suggestions anyone?

 

[aldive]

Then why in the hell to you go back there?