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New noise during deceleration any ideas?

Blackout51

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1998 explorer sport
I've never heard this noise before, it first happened yesterday, and only happens when I'm driving over 40mph and I let off gas and brake pedals, when I push them the nose goes away, it's hard to describe but sounds most like a starter that isn't connected to the car and is operating, it's a loud whirring type sound that has some vibration also, trans shifts fine, rpms stay the same, every thing drives the exact same I just have no ideas what this sound could be, I have a 1998 4.0 sohc with 221,x.. miles
 



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And I wouldn't call it a rattle, it sounds a lot like a small fan spinning really really fast
 






Transfer case. You'll be walking soon.
 












Yeah, it sounds like the range slider is loosing engagement, which is likely worn fork pads, and probably there is some ovalling in the soft magnesium case. Turns out, the magnesium proved to soft for this application, particularly at operating temperatures. It's a pretty easy fix, what re-builders are doing, is putting sleeves in the case halves, upgrading the fork with the SONNAX kit, and of course replacing the slider, pads & seals to start with, a new cam is good too, and you want to look real hard at the main shaft, it can get beat up a little, but if you notice how the slider is annealed right where it engages the main shaft, and is therefore sacrificial in a sense (main shaft $130, slider $40). So the shaft can withstand a good bit of that grinding you hear, the slider on the other hand will not, and HAS to be replaced.

Let me try to outline the crux of the matter...first, ALL movement in high range is driven through about three dozen tiny ramped teeth, which engage less than a quarter of an inch. Yes that's right, there is nothing else. Very minimal engagement in high range, with neutral just millimeters away. Second, the magnesium case is so soft that tolerances open up easily, and a little stacking on top of that Zzzzzzzzwwwhiiiir bang. Low range is very solid, engaged deeply into the planetary, so if it pops on you, go to low to get to safety.
 






I don't have much experience with transfer cases, would it be better for me to attempt this kind of rebuild or just get a replacement at a yard? How much time do you think I have on this transfer case
 






Depends on how much you want to spend. I patched mine at 166,000 for about a hundred dollars. Only lasted 11K, patched it again but used the fork upgrade, and got 40K more. By then I had to have the case halves sleeved, which was not cheap, but I was very impressed with the quality. I replaced the bearings & cam this time too. I have about 15K on this build, but as you can well imagine I would not be the least bit surprised if it popped right now. Remanufactured units I now see as low as $1000 up to $2000. Junkyard would be much less. Plus you could keep the spare if that is something that interests you.
 






Depends on how much you want to spend. I patched mine at 166,000 for about a hundred dollars. Only lasted 11K, patched it again but used the fork upgrade, and got 40K more. By then I had to have the case halves sleeved, which was not cheap, but I was very impressed with the quality. I replaced the bearings & cam this time too. I have about 15K on this build, but as you can well imagine I would not be the least bit surprised if it popped right now. Remanufactured units I now see as low as $1000 up to $2000. Junkyard would be much less. Plus you could keep the spare if that is something that interests you.

Well the explorer isn't my main car, I bought it so I wouldn't have to drive my mustang in the snow, I will probably end up replacing it with a junk yard unit, if I'm driving and the transfer case goes on me will I still be able to drive at all?
 






I can't say for sure, but going by your description, and you do eventually lose high range, you should still have low range. And I can tell you it takes a heck of a long to travel 75 miles in low range lol!
 






I can't say for sure, but going by your description, and you do eventually lose high range, you should still have low range. And I can tell you it takes a heck of a long to travel 75 miles in low range lol!

Will I lose both 4wd and 2wd, or will I still retain 2wd ability?
 






No, you will lose 2WD too.

I wouldn't recommend a junkyard case unless you want to tear into it. FYI I got a rebuilt 4406 transfer case (should be the same as yours) from Transfer Case Express for about $800 including shipping, if you don't want to do it yourself.

Overall the transfer cases are pretty simple. If you've ever had a transmission open its much easier in comparison.
 






I forgot to ask about your tires..
do all four match EXACTLY in all respects: size, brand, model, wear, & inflation. I should have mentioned this first.
 






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