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O2 sensor question

MO_GUY

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are there any visual signs of a bad O2? i just got one of them out, it looks a bit charcoal colored but im sure thats normal, are there any ways to tell by looking at it if it is bad or not?
 



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bump...........

cant anyone help me out here?
 






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Test the function of the O2 sensor(s) with an OND II scanner. There is no way to look at it and tell if functioning.
 






Aldive is right. In theory the sensor will, at high temps (which occur after a few minutes of running) produce voltage. Your computer relies on that voltage to adjust the fuel mixture. The "cross over" voltage is about .445 volts as I recall. It will bounce back and forth above and below that voltage as the computer continually adjusts the fuel trim in the "closed loop" mode. The upstream sensor should crossover at least 8 timeas a minute... downstream sensors are far more stable. An OBDII scanner can actually show you the readout for sensor voltages, so you can see if your sensor is getting lazy or what. Frankly I do not know why more people don;t take the money they waste replacing perfectly good 02 sensors and BUY a damned good scanner using that money and throwing in a few extra bucks. But you can have someone else do it too. Using the above, see if you cannot get a look at the voltages it's putting out while the car is running.

Oh for those who might nit pick, those voltages are for Zirconia 02 sensors, a few imports and Jeep as I recall used Titania sensors and their crossover is more like .25V.

Hope this made sense and helps.

Happy exploring

Chris
 






well i replaced the driver side O2 and the engine light came back on so i took that out and put the old one back in, then did the passenger side, drove it about 15 minutes away and back and it didnt come on.......came home and rested a bit then drove around town for a few minutes and the little booger lit up on me again......wtf!?!? think i might take it to autozone tonight and get it checked out
 






Be aware that other things can screw up the engine air/fuel ratio to the point that the 02 sensors cannot compensate. They end up getting read out as the culprit, when the problem might be DPFE/EGR/vacuum leak/MAF, etc etc. Their job is simple - to operate on a properly running engine to help the computer reach that magic 14.7/1 ratio (stoichiometric I once learned it was called) for air/fuel. If the air or fuel is already AFU, they cannot fix that. Look at fuel trim numbers too. That may tell you something. Make sure you are in closed loop more as well. 1500 rpm is good for testing.

HTH
Happy Exploring

Chris
 






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