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Oil Change "trick" or smart technique....

I usually toss in $1 worth of cheap oil (thin stuff) to help wash out the pan. At least that is where I think its pulling crap from. When I dump it in it does come out with other stuff (dirty) and then comes out clean after about 1/2 to 3/4 of the new quart comes out.

No idea if its really helping, but I'll gladly spend the extra $1 just in case.

~Mark
 



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I've debated doing this before, but without spending the dough on the oil to match what you normally run, I think the benefit of "flushing" the dirty oil left in the pan is negated by having cheap oil replacing better oil...assuming one normally uses better grade stuff.

It depends on the vehicle though. Some engines have oil pans that are designed with the drain plug at the lowest point, and even angled for the best possible drainage, either with the front end jacked up or on ramps, or just straight down. There are lots of other designs where the drain plug is recessed higher than the floor of the pan, and some even have an internal bung with threads that sticks up in the pan more than a half an inch..which usually blocks any oil above that line from being drained. It makes sense to "flush" the pan, but still, even using a whole quart or two, there's no way it's actually flushing out ALL of the old oil, it's just mixing with it, and you can have a 25/75, 50/50, 75/25 or whatever ratio of new to old in there.

Similar to the transmission "flush" stuff, I have to say I think it's better to do ongoing changes rather than even dream of trying to get ALL new fluid in anything that isn't being completely disassembled. Changing the ATF every 33,333 miles probably beats flushing it every 100,000, both in ease of doing it yourself and keeping the lubricating properties up.

So in the same vein, I'd say it's "better" to either change the oil more often or switch to a better brand/type if sludge is an issue, or spend the extra quart money on getting one quart of premium synthetic stuff, and substituting it for one quart of whatever you normally use. The synthetic, even blended with dino oil, will clean up the engine some and hopefully help out with any sludge/buildup issues.

After that, the best thing you can do is change the oil HOT, right after shutting off the engine. The main reason being, all the contaminants are suspended IN the oil, so you're getting the maximum amount of "dirty" oil out. If you do a cold drain, most of the contaminants are settled at the bottom of the oil pan, and won't come out with the fluid that is left.

So basically, I'd say if you use good oil, maybe throw in a synthetic quart or synthetic blend once in a while (if you don't use synthetic already), use a good filter, and change the oil when hot, there will likely be little to no benefit do pouring in a fresh quart just to "flush" the system.

It would certainly be a heck of a waste to do that with a quart of oil at all, especially $5-6/quart stuff. I suppose if you're running cheapo $1 oil in an engine, and you either do cold changes or just get out a lot of sludge when flushing it, it might make more sense, but I think anyone who cares enough about an engine to use a quart of oil flushing it is unlikely to be using cheap oil or having oil sludge problems to begin with.

Overall, I'd think any benefit short of flushing out old oil from a cold drain is either minimal or non-existent. There is still LOTS of old oil in the engine after an oil change, and even the BEST oil is INSTANTLY mixed with it and turns dirty and black at the first startup. It's probably something mental for neat freaks that they think they are "cleaning" the engine out so the new oil stays cleaner longer or something.
 






This is getting way overthought now. I think the initial thought was simply as a rinse to wash some stuff stuck by the drain plug. Will it do much? Probably not. Will it save your engine from a premature death? Doubtful, unless you hit the mother lode with something that was going to be sucked to the screen in a few minutes without that last flow of oil to rinse it out. You might even knock something loose from a rocker or something when pouring it in, that wouldn't have gotten dislodged if you didn't "flush" so it's all subjective.

Changing when needed and when warm (hot) and prefilling your filter will do more to extend your engine life than an oil rinse.

Does it make people "thick" for saying "eh- go for it, what can it hurt?" No. Is it their $2 to spend on a quart of oil? Yes. It's all opinion anyway.
 






I've debated doing this before, but without spending the dough on the oil to match what you normally run, I think the benefit of "flushing" the dirty oil left in the pan is negated by having cheap oil replacing better oil...assuming one normally uses better grade stuff.

Yep, b/c there will be some left behind no doubt, you'd have to use your "regular stuff". In my case last weekend the AZ had a deal, 5 qts plus a filter. The 6th quart was going to cost the same as 2.5 quarts in the deal.
 












I fixed a collapsed lifted in my 93 Dodge Dakota V6 with the ATF trick, at the advice of an old timer. We suspected that oil passage in to the lifter was plugged. Threw a quart of ATF in, drove a few days, then changed the oil, and voila! No more valve tap. Put another 50K miles on it before I sold it, with no issues. So, I'd say the ATF method works.
 






18 and counting, huh......

Old Chinese Proverb: He who speak much say very little.....

Just sayin'
 






question is if it is worth the effort and the $$.

There it is.

Does it "flush" out more dirty oil and crap? Yes.

In the long run, is it worth it? ...............

Plenty of motors have 250,000+ miles on them around the world and have probably never used this trick and have lasted a long time.

I think the question can really only be answered by the individual. It might be worth it to some but not others. Running synthetic is worth it to some, not to others. Using expensive shocks is worth it to some, not others. Waxing their car with uber expensive wax is worth it to some, not others.
 






Instead of using up an extra quart of oil, I use sand to help scour out the motor to make sure it's nice and clean. It gets all the deposits off.......
 






Instead of using up an extra quart of oil, I use sand to help scour out the motor to make sure it's nice and clean. It gets all the deposits off.......

people still use oil? i run 100% crisco.
 






people still use oil? i run 100% crisco.

If you put a brick in your pan, you will save 20% on your crisco bill...
I only need 4 qts of oil in my 5.0 with the brick mod :)
 






I love it!

Now we're getting to the meat!!!
 






Instead of using up an extra quart of oil, I use sand to help scour out the motor to make sure it's nice and clean. It gets all the deposits off.......

I would think "walnut shells" would prove a bit more gentle, also the roasted aroma smell later is quite nice for folks driving behind you.
 






Instead of using up an extra quart of oil, I use sand to help scour out the motor to make sure it's nice and clean. It gets all the deposits off.......

I had to clean some coffee off the keys after reading that and inadvertently spitting from shock. :D
 












What a great find Joe! That's a gem right there! Next the kid is going to try and steam clean his engine from the inside by letting it suck up some water.
 






on my classic ford board (when I actually owned one) there was a water drip into the carb attachement some people put on
 












Soap does provide more internal lubrication for the bearings. That's smart...
 



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