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Rear End Noise....

Donnie, I... uh... what?

Anyways Gavin.. Ah, I see. What's the odds the axle shaft is damaged? Are they pretty tough or once they start.. that sucks..

It has gone from a light metallic scuff noise, to a ... well.. sounds like the bearing is wearing down nicely.
 



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I was told these were bad enough to replace them.

those axle shafts had probably well over 170k miles.

the vehicle was also abused at times.

Although the grooves don't really look all that bad, that is just what I was told, and at the time I was able to afford a set of brand-new Yukon's off eBay for a very good deal.
 






Its not a bad job at all, just a bit messy with the fluid. You don't need any real specialized tools. The only possible pitfall is that pinion bolt that comes out of the carrier(I think its called that). It is clear in Gavin's writeup.

They do break off, and they are not fun to take out. There are kits to get out the broken bolt. It may already be broken, but if it seems hard to get out try to tap the wrench with a hammer before you exert enormous force on it.
 






New plan of attack of this little problem, wouldn't be it cheaper to have a shop swap axles? I'm thinking about getting the axles from a sport with 4.10s..

If this is a cheaper solution than ripping the rear end apart to change the bearing.. and probably the innfer axle itself because the wear is too much. I'll get 4.10s outta the deal.

Question though is, would an axle still even be good if it has sat around in a junk yard?

Are these axles cheap since they're so easy to find? (Talkin about the 8.8 LS and front dana 35)
 






New plan of attack of this little problem, wouldn't be it cheaper to have a shop swap axles? I'm thinking about getting the axles from a sport with 4.10s..

If this is a cheaper solution than ripping the rear end apart to change the bearing.. and probably the innfer axle itself because the wear is too much. I'll get 4.10s outta the deal.

Question though is, would an axle still even be good if it has sat around in a junk yard?

Are these axles cheap since they're so easy to find? (Talkin about the 8.8 LS and front dana 35)

I paid $200 or $250 for a rear w/4.10's, plus an additional $100 core charge. It was a rusted-to-hell axle housing, that had been sitting for God knows how long. I then replaced the axle bearings, since I have no clue how good/bad they were, and might as well do it when the gear lube needed changed anyway.

I then paid another ~$200 for a 4.10 D35 SLA axle housing, that came out of a 2004 (I think it was?) Ranger that had less than 50k miles on it.

as for a shop swapping the axle housings.. well, if I were to say, not too cheap, especially compared to the axle-shaft bearings.

let's just say $80/hr shop rate.
Rear axle takes, oh, 2 hours. Front takes another, what, 2.
There's $320 in labor.
add $200+$100 core charge for rear axle. That comes to $620.
Add another $200 for a front axle housing.

That's $820.


looks like MSI Auto Parts in Fairbanks has a 97 rear axle w/ 4.10's, but no listed price.

they range from $300-$695 in the Anchorage-area.
car-part.com does not find any front axle housings.


of course, you may be able to cheaply find what you need on craigslist.

but I'm not sure how "common" a 4.10 with a limited-slip is.
3.73 w/limited slip was the only option in a couple model years of the 5.0 Explorer, iirc.


edit: ok, I see you already have your eyes on a set of axles? or that's just what you're looking for?
I'd say, a rough guesstimate, would be about 4hrs labor for swapping axles. Maybe less, depending on how rusted the bolts are.
 






So I'm probably better off just getting my axle repaired?

I don't know how many miles are on that sport, or when it was totaled.

It would be a waste for me to get new axles, and then have to get them ripped into for the same reasons my original is... maybe those axles (the truck) were junked recently. (and what would be the most you'd push it before you'd want to rip into them? as far as sitting in our winter climate?
 






So I'm probably better off just getting my axle repaired?

I don't know how many miles are on that sport, or when it was totaled.

It would be a waste for me to get new axles, and then have to get them ripped into for the same reasons my original is... maybe those axles (the truck) were junked recently. (and what would be the most you'd push it before you'd want to rip into them? as far as sitting in our winter climate?

it's possible the axle is perfect, it's possible it's a disaster.
as for sitting... part of that would depend on wether or not their is still lube in the diff. With lube, I'm sure it would be fine. Without lube, most likely fine, but more chances of rusted bearings.

as for cheaper... it depends on which bearing is going out on your truck.

disconnect rear driveshaft, jack up rear axle, rotate tires. Try to determine if the noise is coming from the outside of the axle tube (axle-shaft bearing), or the diff area (pinion bearing, carrier bearing).

If it's the axle-shaft bearing, it should be pretty damn cheap.
if it's a pinion or carrier bearing, it will definitely get spendier.

maybe call a couple shops and ask how much they'd charge for the job.
 






Storlied
I would look on ebay get the repair bearings with the built in seals
I got the whole kit to do the rear bearings both sides complete with gasket and rear end fluid for 79.00 took me 2 hrs total to do the job in my driveway in the cold
make sure you have a slide hammer to pull the bearings out of the axle or all bets are off
 






Definitely the outside bearing, I guess if it's truly gonna be cheaper for repair I gotta forget about 4.10 gears for now...


EDIT: Don't ranger axles work? Or are they all 28 spline? Which years work if they do?

Would that even make a difference?.. maybe if it's a newer ranger... better chances it's good... and swapping axles would be cake... if not cheaper than ripping apart one..
 












Definitely the outside bearing, I guess if it's truly gonna be cheaper for repair I gotta forget about 4.10 gears for now...


EDIT: Don't ranger axles work? Or are they all 28 spline? Which years work if they do?

Would that even make a difference?.. maybe if it's a newer ranger... better chances it's good... and swapping axles would be cake... if not cheaper than ripping apart one..

I believe (I could be wrong) that all the Ranger 8.8's are 28 spline, and the 'Sploders are 31.

plus the Rangers still have rear drum brakes, don't they? or did they switch to rear discs too?
 






Yeah, they probably still are drum... I just thought for a second I could widen my search.

But does this mean I still can't shop around rangers for the front?
 






Yeah, they probably still are drum... I just thought for a second I could widen my search.

But does this mean I still can't shop around rangers for the front?

an SLA Ranger front will work.
that's what I have in my junk :)
 






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