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Sport 4WD front/rear weight distribution on wheels

markls8

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I haven't been successful in finding the weight distribution front to rear for the Explorers. It is a key handling parameter, but I bought one anyway :) . I assumed that with 4WD there will be more front bias over FWD.

My wild guess is that it might be 60/40 or so, but I'm hoping it's better (more rearward) than that.

Anybody out there have any numbers?

Thanks in advance.
 



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Just to clarify what it is you're asking, are you asking what the torque/bias split is or what the actual front to rear weight ratio is?
 






I haven't been successful in finding the weight distribution front to rear for the Explorers. It is a key handling parameter, but I bought one anyway :) . I assumed that with 4WD there will be more front bias over FWD.

My wild guess is that it might be 60/40 or so, but I'm hoping it's better (more rearward) than that.

Anybody out there have any numbers?

Thanks in advance.
I agree with MarkM's post in that I also found the post a bit confusing and concluded it was the amount of power front/rear that you are after.
I think it is basically FWD most of the time. You can bring up the power distribution picture in the left screen to see where that power is being sent to. The only time mine showed 25% front and 75% rear is when I accelerated hard from a dead stop and that distribution didn't last long. Other than that time it was 100% FWD. It is not like the Highlander I had which sent power to all wheels all the time.

Peter
 






He is not talking about power transfer, every vehicle has a weight distribution measurement. He is asking of the total vehicle weight itself, what is on the front axle and what is on the rear axle.

Per Ford's specs, it seems a Curb weight is about 4,563lbs. How much of that is on the front compared to rear I do not know and couldn't find it either when searched.
 






As far as the driveline goes, I can't answer for the sport. Ford's AWD system is primarily FWD unless the need arises for AWD, as Peter stated. As for the weight, since the sports are tuned for performance, Ford has taken the weight dist into consideration when they did the suspension. But, as with any front mounted engine vehicle, the majority of the weight is in the front of the vehicle.

What you may be able to do to find out is go to a metal scrap yard and ask if they have portable scales. Hopefully they'll have 4. My departments motor carrier enforcement unit has them for finding overweight trucks.

Best of luck.
 






Yes, I was asking for the weight distribution, not the torque, as divided between the front and rear wheels. The ideal, which every vehicle designer would strive for from the outset (but only the best, even front-engined, RWD, actually achieve) is 50/50, or a few percent more on the fronts. Excessive weight on the front wheels being a major source of the poor handling characteristics of FWD (or any, really) vehicles.

Glad I'm not the only one who couldn't find it, thanks for looking. I have looked a half dozen or so times over the last year and couldn't find it. I was hoping to find this without going to a scale and measuring it.

;)
 






The all wheel drive models should be a little better (closer to 50/50) than FWD models, just due to the added weight of driveshafts, rearend, and whatnot, but I would imagine still nowhere near the ideal.
 






The all wheel drive models should be a little better (closer to 50/50) than FWD models, just due to the added weight of driveshafts, rearend, and whatnot, but I would imagine still nowhere near the ideal.
I assumed the opposite to be the case, because the transfer case and the mechanicals I guessed are located forward of the (presumed) centre of gravity for the vehicle, and are also heavier there than the FWD model would be. (I am assuming in the 4WD that the mechanicals being added forward of the C of G weigh more than the mechanicals added aft of the C of G, which may or may not be the case).
 






I haven't been successful in finding the weight distribution front to rear for the Explorers. It is a key handling parameter, but I bought one anyway :) . I assumed that with 4WD there will be more front bias over FWD.

My wild guess is that it might be 60/40 or so, but I'm hoping it's better (more rearward) than that.

Anybody out there have any numbers?

Thanks in advance.

Happy New Year everybody.
I am new here. My English is not very good (French Canadian from Québec) but I can read yours comments and it's very interesting.
It's my first Explorer, model Limited V-6, 2015 and I am very happy with it.
On a scale (Ministry of Transport of Québec), the weight is:
Front: 2,640 lbs, Rear: 2,244 lbs. Distribution F/R=54/46.
I hope to have answered your question,
Friendly,
Jacques
 






Welcome to the Forum Fusion977. Bienvenue.:wavey:
Thank you for your post on the weight distribution.:):thumbsup:
Happy New Year Jacques.

Peter
 






Happy New Year everybody.
I am new here. My English is not very good (French Canadian from Québec) but I can read yours comments and it's very interesting.
It's my first Explorer, model Limited V-6, 2015 and I am very happy with it.
On a scale (Ministry of Transport of Québec), the weight is:
Front: 2,640 lbs, Rear: 2,244 lbs. Distribution F/R=54/46.
I hope to have answered your question,
Friendly,
Jacques

Welcome to the forum and thanks for the info. I am assuming being in Canada you have awd. Based on that awd with all the bells and whistles adds about 320 lbs.
 






Merci beaucoup, Jacques. Votre anglais est meilleur que mon francaise. ;) Ce sont exactement les numereux pour que je cherche!

Thank you very much Jacques, those are exactly the numbers I've been looking for!

I'm not unhappy with those numbers either, better than I would have guessed, thinking that the weight distribution was so poor (relative to the competition) that Ford was suppressing them from publication.

So, is your LTD a four wheel drive, or front wheel drive?

Bonne annee et bonne sante!
 






Merci beaucoup, Jacques. Votre anglais est meilleur que mon francaise. ;) Ce sont exactement les numereux pour que je cherche!

Thank you very much Jacques, those are exactly the numbers I've been looking for!

I'm not unhappy with those numbers either, better than I would have guessed, thinking that the weight distribution was so poor (relative to the competition) that Ford was suppressing them from publication.

So, is your LTD a four wheel drive, or front wheel drive?

Bonne annee et bonne sante!

Hi Markls8, votre français est très bon, Bravo!
My LTD is four wheel drive.
On media.ford.com, the base curb weight is 4,610 lbs for the Explorer while this base curb weight is 4,882 lbs for the Explorer Sport.
Happy new year!
Merci pour les vœux de la nouvelle année.
Jacques
 






I assumed the opposite to be the case, because the transfer case and the mechanicals I guessed are located forward of the (presumed) centre of gravity for the vehicle, and are also heavier there than the FWD model would be. (I am assuming in the 4WD that the mechanicals being added forward of the C of G weigh more than the mechanicals added aft of the C of G, which may or may not be the case).

Center of gravity is a height measurement not fore/ aft. The lower the center of gravity the better a vehicle theoretically handles. Low vehicles like sports cars have low C of G and won"t role over as a truck would [ high center of gravity]. Nothing to do with front /rear weight bias.
 






Center of gravity is a height measurement not fore/ aft. The lower the center of gravity the better a vehicle theoretically handles. Low vehicles like sports cars have low C of G and won"t role over as a truck would [ high center of gravity]. Nothing to do with front /rear weight bias.
Actually the C of G of a vehicle exists somewhere on that vehicle as a single point in 3 - dimensional space. It therefore cannot be defined as a single measurement, but as several measurements on x,y, and z axes. Such as height; plus a left to right measurement, and a fore and aft measurement.

It's the fore and aft position of that point, relative to the wheels, that defines the weight distribution between the front and rear wheels, their relative grip on the road, and therefore is a major factor in the handling of the vehicle, particularly at the threshold of that grip.

Of course, that is an over simplification, as not just the weight itself, but also the distribution of that weight along each of those axes is important too.

A very slight bias toward the front wheels is considered optimal for balanced handling in most vehicles. Being in a non-artificially induced four wheel drift, meaning all four wheels are slipping simultaneously and evenly at speed through a curve (with neither the front nor rear wheels breaking loose sending you into a spin, and with lack of under or over steer) and you are still in full control, is the ultimate result. Been there. It's the ultimate.:D

This is my first SUV. I have previously owned performance coupes and sedans, but needed to tow a larger boat than most sedans could do. So I just want to get a handle on how bad SUV's really are in the handling department. (They've come a long way in recent years). Please, no flames, I'm being pragmatic here. :) The Sport so far looks like it is/has been a good compromise, and I'm liking it more and more all the time.
;)
 






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