Sync 3 and Navigation Map Updates

[Stephen Cannon]

Just got a notice on the Ford Pass app that there is a map update.

Is this NA 1 19? Has anyone tried to download it yet?

Just curious.

If the update is FREE then that is about the only way I would do it. Remember that is 1/19 as in January 2019 map database. Think about this we are almost 2022 so even a “Update”’is still two years old. Yes better than nothing but very pathetic that they only update maps every two years. At least with MFT/SYNC2 I could get a yeary
Update. Yes it was my choice to spend the money or not but at least had the option.

Ford/Lincoln NAV map updates have been very weak for a while,and they are not putting enough pressure on their vendor to keep up. The typical excuse from the vendors is “Updayes are NOT part of the infrastructure/business model......BS.....You are a MAP update company. That IS your infrastructure...or at least should be!

the only thing that had a major change from my update to the 1-19 update was the I-20 speed limit was finally displayed as 70MPH on the nav screen even though it has been 70 for at least three-five years before that and FMC nav updates were still showing 60 on themap screen.....

Unfortunately with modern nav and OTA/WiFi updates you are at the mercy of the vendor. The only choice is phone maps but I personally prefer the clean look of factory map screens and try to de clutter the cabin with less things being shrapnel hazards during a hard braking event or accident.

 

[peterk9]

Update is free, but as I mentioned in my post #57 it takes about 90 minutes or so to load into the vehicle. That's why my USB drive is still sitting on my desk.

Peter

 

[Toddman41]

Update is free, but as I mentioned in my post #57 it takes about 90 minutes or so to load into the vehicle. That's why my USB drive is still sitting on my desk.

Peter

Same Peter, 90 minutes... Gonna be a while b4 I driving one way that long.

 

[Stephen Cannon]

It took me the same 90 minutes on my 2017 Acura DVD map update but...2017 model and had a January 2020 database and yes I had to pay but got a fairly current database.

As another comparison my 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee was purchased 7/24 with a 6/15/20 build date and 1/2020 map update. About two months after purchase I already had a software AND Nav/MAP database update.

Could be different map vendors but the point is everyone needs to keep pressure on FMC to put pressure on the map vendors to update maps at minimum once a year. Trust me, new housing developments open, new stores, speed limits get changed so there is justification for a yearly update!

 

[G8orFord]

I guess I'm not as picky as some. I don't expect a map update every time a new Dollar General goes in. Online maps are a little different and more easily updateable and corrected.
As stated,

new housing developments open, new stores, speed limits get changed

but that doesn't just happen in your neighborhood, it happens all over the coverage area for that map and it's not a quick little tweak and push out an update.

 

[MM07]

I'm downloading the files now. I read on the Ranger forums that this might be a newer version of NA 1 19.

We shall see.

 

[MM07]

Looks like the files are fro SYNC 3.0.

 

[cabby65]

Good afternoon

I installed an APIM with Nav in 2021 Explorer which did not come with Navigation. Obviously the Ford site where you input your VIN to see if you have Sync or Map updates available does not recognize my VIN as having navigation. Is there a way to get any available map updates outside of the Ford website?

 

[peterk9]

Good afternoon

I installed an APIM with Nav in 2021 Explorer which did not come with Navigation. Obviously the Ford site where you input your VIN to see if you have Sync or Map updates available does not recognize my VIN as having navigation. Is there a way to get any available map updates outside of the Ford website?

Welcome to the Forum.
You have posted in the wrong sub-forum. This is for the 5th gen Explorers and you have a 6th gen.
This the where you should post; 2020 - 2025 Sync 3 / In Vehicle Technology /Audio
Some members have used Cyanlabs but I don't know if it is also VIN-restrictive.

cyanlabs sync 3.4 update - Google Search

Peter

 

[gary94080]

I just updated my SYNC and maps on my 2017 Limited

this is what I get when I look at the SYNC information:

SYNC 3 Software Version 3.0
Build 23219_PRODUCT

Gracenote Version: 1.1.1.1139 (NA-0010)

Map version NA 2 24

I wanted to confirm this as correct because I updated the maps first because I got an email for an update. I later went online with owner.ford.com and saw the SYNC update. I recall a few updates ago it wouldn't let me update the maps if my SYNC wasn't current.

 

[peterk9]

Since I don't have an Explorer, I did an online search and found this;

Peter

 

[gary94080]

Since I don't have an Explorer, I did an online search and found this;

View attachment 465078

Peter

thanks, looks like the SYNC number tracks with the numbers that I have.

now I just have to see about the map numbers.

edit: found it

NA 2 24 is current.

 

[Peter P]

I purchased a used 2019 Sport a few weeks ago to replace my 2007 Limited, and just discovered this post. After updating SYNC to the latest version, I am considering updating the NAV map version from NA 1 17 to NA 2 24. looking back through these posts, everyone says that it takes about 90 minutes to do the update. I have a couple of questions. Does the engine need to be running or can the ignition simply be on? If the engine actually needs to be running, can I be moving or does the vehicle have to be stationary? An hour and half is an awfully long time to be idling.

 

[peterk9]

Hi Peter. Is the map download via your WiFi connection? If I recall, the engine does not have to be running nor do you have to be in accessory mode. When I had my 2017 Explorer, I believd the updatd ran while it was parked in the garage overnight. Because ig used mh WiFi connection, it could not update when not connected.
My Aviator can because it ks capable of over the air updates.
Hopefully someone can confirm.

Peter

 

[Peter P]

Hi Peter. Is the map download via your WiFi connection? If I recall, the engine does not have to be running nor do you have to be in accessory mode. When I had my 2017 Explorer, I believd the updatd ran while it was parked in the garage overnight. Because ig used mh WiFi connection, it could not update when not connected.
My Aviator can because it ks capable of over the air updates.
Hopefully someone can confirm.

Peter

Thanks Peter, There are only two purchase options, mailing a USB drive or Downloading the installer and putting it on your own USB drive. When I did the SYNC 3 update, that was also via USB, although now that I can connect to my house WiFi, SYNC can potentially update over WiFi, but I am pretty sure the NAV update is USB only. If I could do the update with the ignition on but not the engine while in my garage with a charger hooked up to the battery, that would be good. I just don't want to run the engine idling on my driveway for 90 minutes.

 

[peterk9]

I believe that it has been done with the ignition ON and using a battery tender/charger hookup. There should be a post on that.

Peter