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uncle mike

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I have been looking around for an 05 explorer. I plan on lifting it and putting on some 33 or 35 inch tires. Most of the explorers for sale around me are V 6's. I feel like I need to go with a V8. I guess mostly because that's what I have in my 96 explorer. So for those of you with V6's with larger tires, do you wish you had a bigger engine?
 



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Re gearing would be key in my opinion.
 






stay away from the v6, i am experiencing many of the common issues that the v6 had, as well as many of the other members on this board are having/have had. You will also get the same fuel mileage and more power out of the v8.
 






I've got 125k on my 4.0, haven't had any problems yet

*knocks on wood*
 






The SOHC sucks. I've had two timing chain sets on it, both went out. It's why I'm converting my Ranger to a 302. F the V6.
 






204,x.. on my V8 and still going strong. Got 18.8 mpg on the last tank too.
 






From what I have read the timing issues in the V6 were mostly pre 2002, but I could be wrong. My V6 has had a hard life and I have never touched anything on it except routine maintenance (which was often pretty overdue). Never took a bolt off the engine, also uses no oil. It is well maintained for the most part but I am pretty hard on it and the vehicle in general. 192k and still running very strong, still get 20mpg when below GVWR. This is the most reliable engine me or anyone in my family has owned. I have a few friends with the same engine and they've had the same experience.

That said, the V8 is a better and more reliable engine but I think both are good. The thing is the rest of the drivetrain will fall apart before either engine. The trans, diff, etc are the weak spots in these.

That also said, don't get the V6. It will lug on the highway and have trouble holding overdrive with a lift and tires on anything but flat no headwind etc roads. You could re gear it but getting a v8 is a better solution- no need to re gear (unless your putting too much strain on the tranny, which is possible) and I would bet better mileage just cause it wouldnt have to work as hard and downshift as much. Someone call me out if I'm wrong there. I have 265/70/16's with a 3.55 rear on mine and the v6 struggles with that. I haul and tow regularly and its not a good setup- it will always get me there, it will just take a while. 3.73 would help but even with OD off it still struggles (60-70 mph). If you never plan to tow or haul anything of significance the V6 would get the job done, but the V8 will do it better.

The V6 will have trouble with a lift and tires and a V8 shouldn't have any negatives over the V6 in this case.
 






In fairness the V8 has plenty of problems as well. I have 138K on my V8 and it needs timing component repairs, I have 236K on my V6 and it runs beautifully. I still have no preference. blue goose has summed it up well regarding tires gearing etc. My V6 has stock tires, and I have 31s on my V8. Both have towing package and 3.73 gears. The V6 will outrun the V8 mostly because putting 31s on brings the ratio down to almost exactly a 3.55. But if you are going to run 33-35s you will want the V8 and 4.55s. Just realize braking power will be reduced substantially. YMMV
 






In fairness the V8 has plenty of problems as well. I have 138K on my V8 and it needs timing component repairs, I have 236K on my V6 and it runs beautifully. I still have no preference. blue goose has summed it up well regarding tires gearing etc. My V6 has stock tires, and I have 31s on my V8. Both have towing package and 3.73 gears. The V6 will outrun the V8 mostly because putting 31s on brings the ratio down to almost exactly a 3.55. But if you are going to run 33-35s you will want the V8 and 4.55s. Just realize braking power will be reduced substantially. YMMV

From my experience, the 3rd gen V6 is significantly slower than the 2nd gen SOHC, likely due to weight and stuff which may have something to do with it outrunning the V8 (along with the bigger tires).

I misread the tire size he's looking at going and agree if 35's are what your looking at re-gearing is a good idea. I'm not enough of a good source of information to say what ratio but if you run 35's with the V8 (or the V6 as well) and stock gears, either engine will lug and your tranny won't last long- they're made of glass and seem to barely be able to handle the stock setup (somehow mine is original and doing ok).
 






Yeah blue goose, he'll have a nice rig if he re-gears.
 






That also said, don't get the V6. It will lug on the highway and have trouble holding overdrive with a lift and tires on anything but flat no headwind etc roads. You could re gear it but getting a v8 is a better solution- no need to re gear (unless your putting too much strain on the tranny, which is possible) and I would bet better mileage just cause it wouldnt have to work as hard and downshift as much. Someone call me out if I'm wrong there. I have 265/70/16's with a 3.55 rear on mine and the v6 struggles with that. I haul and tow regularly and its not a good setup- it will always get me there, it will just take a while. 3.73 would help but even with OD off it still struggles (60-70 mph). If you never plan to tow or haul anything of significance the V6 would get the job done, but the V8 will do it better.

The V6 will have trouble with a lift and tires and a V8 shouldn't have any negatives over the V6 in this case.

I have 265/75/16s on my stock V6 and I fully agree with the lugging on the highway. And when I hit a hill with it set on cruise, it will drop quite a few mphs before it drops a gear to stay where its set. Im wishing more and more I had a V8 lol though I have 124,000 on my 05 and no major issues. *knocks on wood*
 






Don't touch the V6 with a 15,000 ft. pole
 






This topic is quit the controversy. I have a 03 4.0 4x4, and a 06 4.6 4x4. Both geared 355. You will never get the torque out of the 4.0 that you will with the 4.6, and torque is what you need for big tires as well as that low end grunt you will want in the mud or snow. But as blue_goose stated you will run into other drivetrain issues with either engine. Sadly the 3rd gen EX shares the same 5R55 transmission with both the 4.0 and 4.6 engine, and my tranny buddy says the 5R55 is only fit for a mustang. That being said, it's not if the tranny fails it's when the tranny fails you will fork out at the least $1200.00 if you take the tranny out, have your tranny buddy rebuild it, and you put it back in. $2500.00 to $3000.00 if your not so fortunate and have to have a shop do the work. Now all that being said, in 06 the 4.6 got an upgraded tranny. They went with the 6R60, it is a 6 speed with tougher stuff inside, but it's a 4th gen EX, and that's not going to help the 3rd gen guys. If your on a tight budget, and all you can afford is the 4.0 EX with a few inexpensive mods you can make the 4.0 pull almost as good as a stock 4.6. My 4.0 engine has 268,000 miles on it, and I have not had any problem with the engine or the good ol faithful 8.8 rear diff. only the tranny at 182,000 miles. If you look around and use patience you can and will find someone selling a 4.6 for the same price as a 4.0. good luck..
 






How about the transfer case? Are they the same?
 












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