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2002 Explorer XLT
I noticed this line was disconnected and I have no idea where it goes or what it connects too. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Probably a vac line or maybe a washer fluid hose, see if you can find where the other end goes.

A few guesses might include the vac reservoir ball around the glove compartment or the heater control valve. I don't recall if the fuel rail dampener hose is that small but if so, another thing to check.

Which engine?

Have you noticed any functional problems like the HVAC blowing out the wrong vents (when not set to defrost), or only doing it under heavy throttle, or not being able to toggle from cold to hot air, or a rough idle, or any check engine light / codes set? I'd assume it's running a bit lean if that's a vac line.

You might also search this forum for related topics. Here's one but I'm sure there are more:
 






Probably a vac line or maybe a washer fluid hose, see if you can find where the other end goes.

A few guesses might include the vac reservoir ball around the glove compartment or the heater control valve. I don't recall if the fuel rail dampener hose is that small but if so, another thing to check.

Which engine?

Have you noticed any functional problems like the HVAC blowing out the wrong vents (when not set to defrost), or only doing it under heavy throttle, or not being able to toggle from cold to hot air, or a rough idle, or any check engine light / codes set? I'd assume it's running a bit lean if that's a vac line.

You might also search this forum for related topics. Here's one but I'm sure there are more:
Hey there and thanks for replying.
I have a 4.0 and now that you mention about codes. I recently got a lean code P1151 relating to the oxygen sensor and I just replaced this sensor 3 months ago and the code went away.

Yes I am experiencing idling issues all of a sudden as well so it must be a vacuum line. It appears to be coming from the firewall on the passenger side of the vehicle.
 






Okay so probably HVAC related. I would just keep looking around or check the black plastic ball vac reservoir (might be mounted to the right wheel well liner? IDK on an '02), or the vac line going to the water diverter valve on the heater core hose, I mean follow that line till you see a Tee with a few lines and if your hose didn't come off that tee, follow the hoses on that Tee to see where the next Tee is. Keep following them all the way to the intake... or vice-versa, find all the little lines on the intake and trace them the other direction... or wait for someone with an '02 4.0L to see this topic. :)

Since the line is coming off, probably needs a nylon or steel wire tie put on to hold it in place.

If all else fails, you might be able to find the leak (where that hose attaches) doing a smoke test.
 






Okay so probably HVAC related. I would just keep looking around or check the black plastic ball vac reservoir (might be mounted to the right wheel well liner? IDK on an '02), or the vac line going to the water diverter valve on the heater core hose, I mean follow that line till you see a Tee with a few lines and if your hose didn't come off that tee, follow the hoses on that Tee to see where the next Tee is. Keep following them all the way to the intake... or vice-versa, find all the little lines on the intake and trace them the other direction... or wait for someone with an '02 4.0L to see this topic. :)

Since the line is coming off, probably needs a nylon or steel wire tie put on to hold it in place.

If all else fails, you might be able to find the leak (where that hose attaches) doing a smoke test.
Ok thanks for the help. I will try to trace it back the best I can and report back.
 






Hey there and thanks for replying.
I have a 4.0 and now that you mention about codes. I recently got a lean code P1151 relating to the oxygen sensor and I just replaced this sensor 3 months ago and the code went away.

Yes I am experiencing idling issues all of a sudden as well so it must be a vacuum line. It appears to be coming from the firewall on the passenger side of the vehicle.
More pics. I can't find anywhere this hose attaches too. It seems to be tapped to another vacuum line so it must connect somewhere in that general vicinity.

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I can't make out much from the pictures, am more of a hands-on follow the hose type person...

You have the two vac lines going through (coming out) the firewall. One of them should go to the water valve on the hose to the heater core, so I would try to follow the hose connected to that heater core valve and look for a Tee on it.

The other hose coming out the firewall should go to a check valve connected by another piece of hose, to the vac reservoir ball, or direct to the vac reservoir ball if the check valve is built in or on the vac reservoir ball.

The other way to try to figure this out is by symptoms. If it's going to the heater valve, you lose control of switching between hot and cold, would have lack of vac on the hose to the heater valve for both hot and cold, dash settings, while normally one or the other dash setting (hot vs cold) would cause vac on the heater core valve.

You can do a smoke test inexpensively with a dollar cigar and a transfer pump. You have to block the snorkel connecting to the air filter box so the smoke can't escape there.



There's a better video somewhere on youtube but I can't find it right now. You can make a cap like the guy in the video did to connect to the intake snorkel, or just block it off (plastic bag over it and a rubber band to hold it will work) and pick a different entry point for the smoke like the brake booster hose or elsewhere, so you need no additional parts besides the transfer pump and what comes with it. Transfer pump is also sold on ebay, amazon, etc at higher price.
 






I can't make out much from the pictures, am more of a hands-on follow the hose type person...

You have the two vac lines going through (coming out) the firewall. One of them should go to the water valve on the hose to the heater core, so I would try to follow the hose connected to that heater core valve and look for a Tee on it.

The other hose coming out the firewall should go to a check valve connected by another piece of hose, to the vac reservoir ball, or direct to the vac reservoir ball if the check valve is built in or on the vac reservoir ball.

The other way to try to figure this out is by symptoms. If it's going to the heater valve, you lose control of switching between hot and cold, would have lack of vac on the hose to the heater valve for both hot and cold, dash settings, while normally one or the other dash setting (hot vs cold) would cause vac on the heater core valve.

You can do a smoke test inexpensively with a dollar cigar and a transfer pump. You have to block the snorkel connecting to the air filter box so the smoke can't escape there.



There's a better video somewhere on youtube but I can't find it right now. You can make a cap like the guy in the video did to connect to the intake snorkel, or just block it off (plastic bag over it and a rubber band to hold it will work) and pick a different entry point for the smoke like the brake booster hose or elsewhere, so you need no additional parts besides the transfer pump and what comes with it. Transfer pump is also sold on ebay, amazon, etc at higher price.

Ok thanks. I am going to take my time and thoroughly search it out the next fo round. I was pressed for time earlier when I looked and it was over 100 degrees outside so my patience was very thin to say the least lol..
 






Whatever it connects to is obviously going to be within the reach of the hose, but it may be flexible and has dropped down out of sight/reach.
 






I can't make out much from the pictures, am more of a hands-on follow the hose type person...

You have the two vac lines going through (coming out) the firewall. One of them should go to the water valve on the hose to the heater core, so I would try to follow the hose connected to that heater core valve and look for a Tee on it.

The other hose coming out the firewall should go to a check valve connected by another piece of hose, to the vac reservoir ball, or direct to the vac reservoir ball if the check valve is built in or on the vac reservoir ball.

The other way to try to figure this out is by symptoms. If it's going to the heater valve, you lose control of switching between hot and cold, would have lack of vac on the hose to the heater valve for both hot and cold, dash settings, while normally one or the other dash setting (hot vs cold) would cause vac on the heater core valve.

You can do a smoke test inexpensively with a dollar cigar and a transfer pump. You have to block the snorkel connecting to the air filter box so the smoke can't escape there.



There's a better video somewhere on youtube but I can't find it right now. You can make a cap like the guy in the video did to connect to the intake snorkel, or just block it off (plastic bag over it and a rubber band to hold it will work) and pick a different entry point for the smoke like the brake booster hose or elsewhere, so you need no additional parts besides the transfer pump and what comes with it. Transfer pump is also sold on ebay, amazon, etc at higher price.

Is this the vacuum reservoir ball you were referring too?

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^ No, AFAICT that's the EGR valve. The vac reservoir on my '98 is mounted on the right front wheel well liner and looks a bit like this:
(Ford may have changed the shape of it at some point, doesn't "have" to be ball shaped, but generally it's just a medium-large black plastic chamber).

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^ No, AFAICT that's the EGR valve. The vac reservoir on my '98 is mounted on the right front wheel well liner and looks a bit like this:
(Ford may have changed the shape of it at some point, doesn't "have" to be ball shaped, but generally it's just a medium-large black plastic chamber).

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Ok thanks. I havent seen anything that resembles that shape or similiar yet. I have a 4.0 Xlt not sure if the shape has changed since the 98 models
 






Vacuum hose attaches onto the heater hose control valve..... Heater control valve is located under the alternator. A bracket secures the valve to the front of the engine block. You should be able to see the valve if you're standing by the passenger front tire looking down towards the engine underneath the alternator.
 






Vacuum hose attaches onto the heater hose control valve..... Heater control valve is located under the alternator. A bracket secures the valve to the front of the engine block. You should be able to see the valve if you're standing by the passenger front tire looking down towards the engine underneath the alternator.
I will check out later and report back. Thanks
 






I will check out later and report back. Thanks
Wait.......I missed the part where you mentioned the Explorer is a 2002.

It's possible that it goes where I described. To test this out, set the heater to Off with the engine cold. Then start the engine. Feel both heater core hoses. Are they both the same tame temperature? If so, it means that the engine air is not sucking the valve closed. So....if both heater core hoses get hot at the same rate, the vacuum connector goes to the heater control valve.

Another possibility is that it could attach onto a hose connection located up near the passenger side firewall......if it's supposed to go here your dash vents will be stuck blowing air at the windshield no matter which vent selection you switch to.
 






Vacuum hose attaches onto the heater hose control valve..... Heater control valve is located under the alternator. A bracket secures the valve to the front of the engine block. You should be able to see the valve if you're standing by the passenger front tire looking down towards the engine underneath the alternator.
I lucked out and found a you tube video! You were correct it connects to the Heater control Valve. I could never see it because it was located right under the intake hose.
 


















Solved. Well done.

Drive safe and take care.
 



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