Why you should buy a F-150 over a Tundra....

[JDraper]

 

[section525]

Dang. POS Tundras.

That is a serious frame you have your your Screw!

 

[JDraper]

Dang. POS Tundras.

That is a serious frame you have your your Screw!

The opinion of my SCrew was reinforced over the weekend. My neighbor is a logger and is building himself a new logging truck to replace his old one. Fully assembled both trucks would be in the 30,000 lb range. We were moving his new truck (minus engine and transmission) with the old one, and we got the bumpers hooked together. Since the new one has no brakes yet, we strapped the tag axle to the hitch on my F-150 and tried to pull it off his other truck, and the F-150 (in 4lo) actually pulled both trucks slightly uphill in hardpack 2B gravel..and the one truck had his tag axle brakes on... . We did finally get them apart by cutting the wheels the opposite direction, using the F-150 as an anchor for the one truck, and driving the other away...only bent a couple brackets on his new logging truck...

 

[Willard]

I've seen the frame deflection video before, but never that driving test one. That's crazy! The tundra's like made of rubber or something.

 

[justin146]

The frame isnt the problem with mine:

-The perfectly maintained engine lost compression in two cylinders at 100k miles
-The rearend exploded at 80k miles
-the driveshaft lost balance at 40k miles
-The transmission started slipping at 60k miles
-the transfer case needed rebiult at 90k

So now I have a 140k mile truck with no (well, few) original drivetrain parts; But my new Silverado will be here soon

 

[BrooklynBay]

My neighbor leases a new Tundra. He liked it when he first got it, but after putting on a lot of mileage he doesn't like it as much. It's made in the USA even though it's a Toyota.

 

[Stic-o]

Love my one-fitty!!

 

[briwayjones]

I always noticed in the Tacoma commercials where Toyota was showing how off road worthy they were by them driving over rough terrain fast how much the bumpers and bed would deflect compared to the rest of the truck. The bumper would bounce and deflect by a couple inches. I've seen that on the Chevys in the commercials too.

 

[IAmTodd]

Wow, thats quite a bit of movement!

I'd like to see what a gen2 Explorer would do on that course

 

[Willard]

Wow, thats quite a bit of movement!

I'd like to see what a gen2 Explorer would do on that course

It'd probably jump all over the place and flip :

 

[briwayjones]

It'd probably jump all over the place and flip :

Well on that course a 2nd gen would probably flip a full 360 right back on to it's wheels. No worries.

 

[JTX]

Theres a reason why they dont test against Dodge rams.

 

[Willard]

Theres a reason why they dont test against Dodge rams.

Why? Because they wrecked the Ram they had in the course?

 

[TedJ]

So what if the frame is tougher, if all the important parts like the DRIVETRAIN can't even last 100k? At least the frame won't bend when they put it up on the lift :

Now don't get me wrong I'm a ford guy but I'm saying this because I have heard stories and one of the people my mom knows had transmission failure on their F-150 at well under 100k.

I'm not really sold on ANY of the new trucks out there, Chevy is making plastic crap (did you see the gas filler popped open in that test), Toyota has frames that are like a bendy-straw, and dodge... well they can't make powertrains either. One of my neighbors has an '04 dodge 3500 with the Cummins diesel.. at 101,000 or so the trans failed, the ujoints were all bad and that killed the pinion bearing, and o yea it liked to downshift into 1st while you were doing 70. He said that was really scary

IMO They need to focus on the whole package if they're gonna get any of my money.

 

[Stic-o]

Wow, thats quite a bit of movement!

I'd like to see what a gen2 Explorer would do on that course

Now this depends....would it have Firestone tires?:

 

[IAmTodd]

Now this depends....would it have Firestone tires?:

With Firestones of course...filled to 20psi. Actually it may be able to cope!

 

[techieman33]

I don't think mine would make it 10 feet, I did so much in my quest to get rid of the marshmallow ride that now it rides like there isn't any suspension at all

There are a couple more videos in this series I'll see if I can find them.

 

[techieman33]

Tow hooks


Bolts

 

[SVO]

The straps they were using on the "Tow Hook" vid made me get a very ill feeling in my tummy.

Those are some VERY scary straps they're using










Jeff - :navajo:

 

[Joe Dirt]

But the media say it's better because it's a Toyota- are they wrong?

Amazing stuff. Every shred of info I see about the trucks scare me, especially since a lot of this stuff is new- like the Silverado, and the '04 F150 was still built better back then, than the Silverado is now... The Tundra? All marketing. <shudder> Dodge's idea- just replace every 3rd word with "Hemi" and you'll sell enough to make it worthwhile to build.

I loved my '04 STX. If I bought another truck, hands down- it would be another '04-? F-150, they're spectatular trucks. Problems? Sure- all manufacturers have them, but the overall package per $ is hard to beat.