Techieman33's Front and rear axle swap

**Turdle** · 06-11-2008, 10:24 PM

Techieman33 is coming to Humboldt so we can swap both of his axles to 410's

And, some other little things we'll save as a surprise.

I thought I'd start a thread now instead of after the fact.

**Tbars4** · 06-11-2008, 10:47 PM

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**Burns** · 06-11-2008, 10:48 PM

Whoot

Have fun with the swap.

Are you just swapping the alxes or going for the actuall gear swap.

**Turdle** · 06-11-2008, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burns

Whoot

Have fun with the swap.

Are you just swapping the alxes or going for the actuall gear swap.

Next week,
we are sapping complete axles, and I get a sweet deal on his 373's, which will cure my clink.

*techieman33* · 06-11-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burns

Whoot

Have fun with the swap.

Are you just swapping the alxes or going for the actuall gear swap.

It's cheaper to just find some used axles and swap them out.

**Burns** · 06-11-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtsmith

Next week,
we are sapping complete axles, and I get a sweet deal on his 373's, which will cure my clink.

Ok this was what i figured was going to happen....

Quote:

Originally Posted by techieman33

It's cheaper to just find some used axles and swap them out.

Good. I was gonna warn ya

*techieman33* · 06-11-2008, 11:47 PM

We've already run into a minor snag the rear axle I'm getting is from a v6 so it doesn't have the mounting tabs for the rear control arms, does anyone know where I can get that bracket, or run without them?

**IZwack** · 06-11-2008, 11:50 PM

Cut the old one and reweld maybe? If not you can always fab up some brackets, shouldnt take too long.

**Turdle** · 06-12-2008, 12:04 AM

Heck-if you need to go that far, weld in a nice track bar set up.

I don't know if my 90 amp (actually more like 70 amp) welder will cut it though.

I have seen v8 2wd without the control arms-I think it will drive fine. The leafs will hold it.

You could drive it to a welding shop to have the tabs welded on.

**IZwack** · 06-12-2008, 12:07 AM

I guess you can run it arm-less and always come back to it later. Its not like the truck wont be drivable w/o it.

*techieman33* · 06-13-2008, 03:09 PM

I now have both axles in my possession. I used to hate the smell of diff oil but now it's growing on me and I kind of like it after being around both leaking axles, the cover over the front was loose when I got it in the mail and there was fluid everywhere, and then the rear somehow worked it's way out of the straps on my way home and rolled over leaving the vent hole facing down so it could drip fluid all over.

I'm just lucky that it didn't get through the moving blanket and into the carpet.

*CDW6212R* · 06-13-2008, 07:09 PM

Good luck there, I'm going to be swapping my extra 3.73 parts with my V6 4.10 stuff. I'll end up with the 4.10's as spares, and sell the extra rear brakes and LS.

*techieman33* · 06-16-2008, 02:10 PM

I hate to say this but J**p parts are going on my mounty

it was the only way i could get rebuild kits for the rear calipers, since NO ONE has them listed for explorers/mountaineers in their system. Even though it's the same part number

**Turdle** · 06-16-2008, 02:50 PM

Don't jeep parts screw on backwards? I'm confused now--

*techieman33* · 06-16-2008, 02:55 PM

Good news on the control arm/traction bar front. Johnstone has been running a 4.10 rear from a v6 in his dd explorer without the bars and everything has been fine, he hasn't noticed any difference.

*CDW6212R* · 06-16-2008, 07:51 PM

Swap the rear calipers at Autozone for rebuilt units. That is much easier than rebuilding them yourself, also not expensive.

BTW, I found another 3.73 front axle assembly. My favorite Ford technician had an extra from his old 96 Explorer, it was swapped at 12k when looking for a problem(driveshaft CV). He sold it to another tech, and suggested getting that instead of him rebuilding another for me. The first one cost a little under $150 total. I may end up with two spare fronts and two sets of rear brakes.

**MountaineerGreen** · 06-16-2008, 08:26 PM

You won't need the traction bars- they didn't make any noticeable difference on mine- only limited flex, not a problem for you, but you won't notice a difference I'll bet.

JT has my phone number- call me if you need anything. I can do that front diff swap in the dark by now.

Jon, I thought you were going to do this in about a month

**Turdle** · 06-16-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountaineerGreen

You won't need the traction bars- they didn't make any noticeable difference on mine- only limited flex, not a problem for you, but you won't notice a difference I'll bet.

JT has my phone number- call me if you need anything. I can do that front diff swap in the dark by now.

Jon, I thought you were going to do this in about a month

Dang-you aren't allowing any beer time Evan. 30 bonks--

99SportX · 06-16-2008, 11:00 PM

If it helps any, I never ran those bars after my V8 swap and all was well. I have been thinking of adding them now since I just swapped to a 3.73 LS rear from a V8 so it has the mounts. I have all the parts, maybe I will just do it. The multi-leafs can hold the power just fine.

*techieman33* · 06-16-2008, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDW6212R

Swap the rear calipers at Autozone for rebuilt units. That is much easier than rebuilding them yourself, also not expensive.

I need the rebuild kits becuase they're being powdercoated, just in case being baked does any damage to the o-ring or dust boot.

06-11-2008, 10:24 PM	#1
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,787 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Techieman33's Front and rear axle swap Techieman33 is coming to Humboldt so we can swap both of his axles to 410's And, some other little things we'll save as a surprise. I thought I'd start a thread now instead of after the fact. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

06-11-2008, 10:47 PM	#2
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06-11-2008, 10:48 PM	#3
Burns EF Late Night Crew Memphis, TN 1991 Explorer/2002 F-250 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8,927 Vehicle Specs	Whoot Have fun with the swap. Are you just swapping the alxes or going for the actuall gear swap. __________________ Jonathan Burns Moderator of the Feature Truck Forum Owner of the "Lime" Forum Rules and Usage

06-11-2008, 11:50 PM	#8
IZwack Germantown, MD Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 22,381 Vehicle Specs	Cut the old one and reweld maybe? If not you can always fab up some brackets, shouldnt take too long. __________________ »»»»»...how'd the moon get there, how'd the moon get there?

06-12-2008, 12:04 AM	#9
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,787 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Heck-if you need to go that far, weld in a nice track bar set up. I don't know if my 90 amp (actually more like 70 amp) welder will cut it though. I have seen v8 2wd without the control arms-I think it will drive fine. The leafs will hold it. You could drive it to a welding shop to have the tabs welded on. __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

06-11-2008, 11:47 PM	#7
techieman33 Elite Explorer Topeka, KS 00 V8 Mountaineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,218 Vehicle Specs	We've already run into a minor snag the rear axle I'm getting is from a v6 so it doesn't have the mounting tabs for the rear control arms, does anyone know where I can get that bracket, or run without them?

06-12-2008, 12:07 AM	#10
IZwack Germantown, MD Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 22,381 Vehicle Specs	I guess you can run it arm-less and always come back to it later. Its not like the truck wont be drivable w/o it. __________________ »»»»»...how'd the moon get there, how'd the moon get there?

06-13-2008, 03:09 PM	#11
techieman33 Elite Explorer Topeka, KS 00 V8 Mountaineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,218 Vehicle Specs	I now have both axles in my possession. I used to hate the smell of diff oil but now it's growing on me and I kind of like it after being around both leaking axles, the cover over the front was loose when I got it in the mail and there was fluid everywhere, and then the rear somehow worked it's way out of the straps on my way home and rolled over leaving the vent hole facing down so it could drip fluid all over. I'm just lucky that it didn't get through the moving blanket and into the carpet.

06-13-2008, 07:09 PM	#12
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 13,016 Vehicle Specs	Good luck there, I'm going to be swapping my extra 3.73 parts with my V6 4.10 stuff. I'll end up with the 4.10's as spares, and sell the extra rear brakes and LS. __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)

06-16-2008, 02:10 PM	#13
techieman33 Elite Explorer Topeka, KS 00 V8 Mountaineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,218 Vehicle Specs	I hate to say this but J**p parts are going on my mounty it was the only way i could get rebuild kits for the rear calipers, since NO ONE has them listed for explorers/mountaineers in their system. Even though it's the same part number

06-16-2008, 02:50 PM	#14
Turdle Old and in the way Humboldt, Kansas 2000 Mounty Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 23,787 Vehicle Specs (Original Poster)	Don't jeep parts screw on backwards? I'm confused now-- __________________ Jon 2000 Mountaineer Turdle-gone Vitamin D Wagon Sold also

06-16-2008, 02:55 PM	#15
techieman33 Elite Explorer Topeka, KS 00 V8 Mountaineer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,218 Vehicle Specs	Good news on the control arm/traction bar front. Johnstone has been running a 4.10 rear from a v6 in his dd explorer without the bars and everything has been fine, he hasn't noticed any difference.

06-16-2008, 07:51 PM	#16
CDW6212R Elite Explorer Knoxville, TN 98 Mountaineer A4WD Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 13,016 Vehicle Specs	Swap the rear calipers at Autozone for rebuilt units. That is much easier than rebuilding them yourself, also not expensive. BTW, I found another 3.73 front axle assembly. My favorite Ford technician had an extra from his old 96 Explorer, it was swapped at 12k when looking for a problem(driveshaft CV). He sold it to another tech, and suggested getting that instead of him rebuilding another for me. The first one cost a little under $150 total. I may end up with two spare fronts and two sets of rear brakes. __________________ Don 91 Lincoln LSC/SE, 99/93 Explorer Limited 4WD, 98 AWD Mounty with 255/55/18's, big sway bars, and 12.75" x 1.25" rotors. Soon a BW4406, built trans, stereo and interior. The best thing that could help us all, is the Fair Tax Plan. Be American, Buy American (Manufacturer)

06-16-2008, 08:26 PM	#17
MountaineerGreen Towing Moderator North East Arkansas 2012 F150 4x4 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7,583 Vehicle Specs	You won't need the traction bars- they didn't make any noticeable difference on mine- only limited flex, not a problem for you, but you won't notice a difference I'll bet. JT has my phone number- call me if you need anything. I can do that front diff swap in the dark by now. Jon, I thought you were going to do this in about a month __________________ -Evan Febuary 09 Feature Truck - Elite Registry - Photo Gallery - Feedback - Go Elite! - My Write Ups - EF Vendors

06-16-2008, 11:00 PM	#19
99SportX Wannabe Elite Explorer Duluth, MN '99 Sport Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,933 Vehicle Specs	If it helps any, I never ran those bars after my V8 swap and all was well. I have been thinking of adding them now since I just swapped to a 3.73 LS rear from a V8 so it has the mounts. I have all the parts, maybe I will just do it. The multi-leafs can hold the power just fine. __________________ '99 Explorer Sport 5.0 AWD t-case with 2wd spindles (identity crisis) '99 Explorer XLT 4.0 SOHC 4x4 for daily driver/off road use