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How To: 8.8 Drums to Disc swap the hard way

Discussion in 'Ford Ranger - Mazda B-Series Forum' started by Tbars4, July 1, 2011.

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  1. Tbars4

    Tbars4 Moderator Emeritus Elite In Memoriam

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    ..The First Gen Explorers and Rangers are already equally plumbed in the rear to a block on top of the rear diff..

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    (bad pics here and not mounted)..But we can use our existing lines and just cut them where we want to make a joint..

    ..My 91 Explorer stock brake lines..(for first gen stock reference)
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    ..And my 94 X 8.8 axle under my Ranger showing the new joint location..
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  3. Scott B.

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    I believe this is NOT true. To be sure, check the flow rate and volume of the two M/Cs - I'm sure you will find they are the same.

    Look at the pictures in my '06 thread. You will see I welded mounting tabs to the axle housing, which hold a hard-line-to-soft-line adapter.

    Nothing to it - really.
     
  4. Scott B.

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    If you want to run the line from the chassis to the left side of the axle instead of the down to the pumpkin, everything is useful. Otherwise, from the flexlines out is useful.

    I'll be glad to take the housing off your hands if you are planning on tossing it...
     
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    CDW6212R Hauls the mail. Elite Explorer

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    Sure Scott, give me a few weeks to get the parts off of it. Do you need a 91-94 rear also, I still have the 93 too? I saved it because it has a 3L73 in it, with extra clutches I installed 40k miles back. I need money for that one.
     
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    Take your time, Don - no rush. I'm a little busy with the V8 conversion.

    I don't need either rear end - I just figured I would hold on to the empty housing in case I ever bent mine. :D
     
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    ...I haven't forgotten about this..:(

    ...Was all set up to finish this this weekend but the Ranger had other plans..We've been working a bunch and soon as I got off to get some more parts, The Ranger threw a code so I'll be doing maintenance wrenching this weekend and hopefully can get it together next weekend..:hammer:
     
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    gmanpaint It's Always Something! Staff Member Moderator Elite Explorer

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    Finally getting around to swapping in a 2nd gen(97) 8.8 into the 94. Picking it up this weekend, and will try to get it installed soon. :D
     
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    BTW, I still don't have parking brakes after this mod. Had a hell of time finding the right (I think) intermediate cable. Shoes are adjusted, still nothing.
     
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    Thats all thats to it. Brian1 had mentioned this mod early on in the thread. ;)
     
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    But the cable I have is really tight. Much tighter than the cable Ford put on there.
    I thought about something like that when I did the mod. I know I don't have enough slack to do that now.
    I guess I can buy a longer cable and try it.
     
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    Your going to gain length when you add the turnbuckle. You can get longer turnbuckles as well to suit your needs. ;)
     
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    Excellent point. Didn't think of that.

    Stupid question...
    Can i use the turn buckles from Lowes or are they not strong enough? If not, where is the best place to get them?

    Ok, two stupid questions. But by now you guys should be used to those from me. ;)
     
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    I ran into fun with the e-brake on my '92 when I did the swap. This is what I came up with.

     
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    ...Thanks for sharing all that info...:salute:

    ...Most folks take for granted that the 91's and 92's are the same as the 93-94 models...The early 91's are a rare bird to begin with and the rest of the 91-92's (small) parts are all slightly different than the 93-94's..

    ..I'm sure that info will prove priceless to several others in the future trying to resolve these same problems..:biggthump
     
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    Alright gents, I found a shiny 8.8 with 4.10's and a LS at my local yard this past weekend, so I'm headed there tomorrow morning to grab the critter for the Beast.

    If I remember correctly, it is off of a 97 2-Door, so while I'm there, what else should I grab to make sure that everything can plug and play correctly?

    (Other than a 1st gen's pumpkin that has 4.10's as well... I haven't seen one of those yet, but hopefully I'll be able to find one by the end of the week so I can start the swap)

    P.S. I know that I'm posting in the 'Hard Way' Thread, and hoping to go the easy way, but I didn't think that my question deserved a whole new thread dedicated to it, and I know that you guys know waaaaayyyy more about these monsters than I ever will.
     
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    ...I think most of it is already covered in this thread especially about the parking brake cables on this page..

    ..You might also read up on the couple of threads included in the first post as a primer before you begin...

    ..It's actually pretty much a swap out and how you decided to tie your brakes and parking brakes in is the main thing to study up on..;)
     
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    Doing the entire axle swap soon hopefully, but i have a question i was hoping someone could answer! With the Disc brakes will my 15" wheels be ok or am i going to have to have 16" or bigger?
     
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    The 15's are fine for the rear discs.

    They came stock on most 95-98's, 16's became more common around 1998, but the brakes are the same.
     
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    Cool thanks cause I wouldve been upset if I put the new brakes on and the rims didnt fit lol...
     
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    I can confirm, your 15's should be just fine. Good luck!
     

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