Joining the bandwagon, my 4L OHV build

im far enough in this to not turn back, so ill start this thread now.

starting with a truck that hasent been driven in 2 years before i got it. so its really dirty, ticks, needs some help.
im going for a mild top end rebuild. just a nice cleaning and new parts, upgraded performance parts. with a nice coat of paint to finish it up.
update: turned into full rebuild


parts list:

• 2643 ANCHOR - drivers motor mount (rockauto)
• 2641 ANCHOR - passenger motor mount (rockauto)
• SP432 MOTORCRAFT - spark plugs (autozone)
• WR4062 MOTORCRAFT - plug wire set (rockauto)
• KS2358 FELPRO - full gasket set (autozone)
• PR422 DNJ/ROCK ENGINE - pistion ring set (rockauto)
• m328 MELLING - high flow oil pump (summitracing)
• 432217 VISTA-PRO - ready rad radiator (summitracing)
• E71531 DAYCO - upper radiator hose (autozone)
• B71532 DAYCO - lower radiator hose (autozone)
• 200-87684 DAYCO - heater-to-thermostat hose (autozone)
• 200-87715 DAYCO - heater-to-water pump hose (autozone)
• 58390 A-1 CARDONE - reman waterpump, they sent a 97tm (rockauto)
• 300-942 DORMAN - water pump pulley (rockauto)
• 300-004 DORMAN - power steering pulley (autozone)
• 49237 GOODYEAR - belt tensioner (rockauto)
• 5968 HAYDEN AUTOMOTIVE - idler pulley (rockauto)
• 49-410-8 COMP CAMS - camshaft (summitracing)
• R1092 SEALED POWER - rocker arms (rockauto)
• VS1630 SEALED POWER - valve springs (rockauto)
• sev-2027 SI VALVES - exhaust valves (sivalves.com)
• sev-2028 SI VALVES - intake valves (sivalves.com)
• UP94172S ULTRAPOWER - timing chain kit (rockauto)
• 25053 CRANKSHAFT SUPPLY - reman crankshaft with bearings (rockauto)
• 70mm 94/95 Mustang GT Cobra 19/24lb MAF (ebay)
• ebay link - 90tm/93tm cylinder heads
• ebay link - matched set of injectors
• EF link - modded stock throttle body
• GM3115200 chevrolet HHR electric fan from EF member
• FAN-PWN-V3 SPAL fan controller from EF member
• 1633S-1 JBA - headers and y-pipe used from EF member

later upgrades: 200amp alternator, underdrive/overdrive pulleys. maybe other stuff as i get ideas

 

[jd4242]

easier yes but still in the way!!you can all most see it stamped in the pic,in the middle of the head behind the springs under the rocker arm shaft.could be but man thats bad either way,bad oil means high heat low lube witch means worn bearings.also high heat is very bad for those heads if they are stock

 

[jd4242]

ps im the 2nd owner of my truck,my ex was the first so kind of the first but it had synthetic oil from 60000 up till 160000 when the pump pick up got clogged

 

[Xeek]

ok. both have a "3" on them. passenger one has "C8S1A" on the front and what looks like "10H" in the middle. drivers one has "90" towards the back.
thats all i could read. just took a shower and its raining so i didnt wanna dig in to far

history: friend of my friend sold it to me. it had sat for 2 years i think (at least a year). i got a new battery and it was running. told me "rebuilt" 30k ago, ticking away

 

[jd4242]

Time for new heads.those are ranger 2.9 heads 90tm good thread.check the ground strap bolt.those heads are crap!!
http://204.14.93.181/forums/showthread.php?t=6934

 

[Xeek]

yea i was searching that. when i looked back at brandons thread and saw where i was supposed to be looking. took some wd-40, a little pick and a rag. read 90tm clear as day on both sides.

rebuilt my ass....
atleast this time its gonna be rebuilt for real

 

[jd4242]

Well it was rebuilt but just with the wrong heads.being they were that cheap you know no bearing or anything was done so if i was you i would do a full rebuild,now your talkn money or run it for another 100000 or so till those bearing give out

 

[Xeek]

ive been thinking of a full rebuild for awhile. id be able to learn this motor down to every bolt by doing that.
damnit. so much for buying bumpers with my tax money. looks like its all getting sunk into this


i keep forgetting to take pics of them. but i got some used jbas awhile back. the y-pipe has 2 o2 sensors on it. my stock one just has 1 when they join before the cat.

 

[jd4242]

Its should have three 2 O2 and one egr.you have to have one welded on infront of the cat or just in front of that flange,in order for you O2 to read right

 

[Xeek]

i thought i didnt have egr?

 

[jd4242]

You can probably get away with just having the crank turned and balanced.so you could just use stock pistons.so just new rings and rod/crank bearings and cost for turn down,maybe another $300 shouldnt be too bad

 

[jd4242]

You dont nor do you have 2 O2 you have to plug all those and have a new hole drilled and welded where you old one came from

 

[Xeek]

i guess ill see what everything looks like when i get to that point. full rebuild would be good for me, but money isnt

well if the stock y-pipe comes out in one piece hopefully i can just use that. cause the one with the jbas is rusty. mine is in good shape.

you mind looking on ebay for some 93tms? brandon said modernengine sucked so those are out of the question. and that other guy youve mentioned apparently wont take less then 200 now

 

[jd4242]

$120
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=170434742301
$155+ shipping
http://www.acheinc.com/productdetail.php?id=167
Go with the eq as it seems the others have had problems.both need new valaves and springs

 

[Xeek]

whats eq? yea i was planning on new ones of both. oem spring would be fine right?

 

[jd4242]

Engine Quest the first link.yea go with two and OE springs are fine but i would go SI for valves

 

[Xeek]

yea i was planning on SI

im making myself nervous at the thought of starting my parts $ tally.....



edit: my god i need to goto bed. work in 3hrs :/

 

[jd4242]

Yea its the same guy from the link earlier. Also he just had the 95tms on sale most of got tired of everyone offering him $150hahah now we know hell take $190

 

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well i like the price of $145 for the 93s. and cheaper gas that way.

how much do the Si valves cost? ill make an order of the valves, springs and heads on payday

 

[jd4242]

I think they are $13 a piece like $130 shipped,shoot Brandon a pm he just got his.rockauto should have a good price on springs with our discount or tously ford think thats how to spell it.email the guy about the heads and see if he will give you a discount on shipping or anything if you buy two heads,he might nock $10 off each one,who knows

 

[Xeek]

$13 = $130 shipped? lol more like $150, same as rockers. yea most people combine shipping prices, maybe i can get a buck or two knocked off the 120 too. the springs are only $35, thats awesome