2000 X AWD 5.0 cranks but no start after new exhaust/cats installed

[Josh P]

Post the videos to YouTube then link it here. Not the lesbians.

 

[Stickman1966]

Post the videos to YouTube then link it here. Not the lesbians.

I had sent all the pictures and the videos to Fortune his email so he's got them

 

[Stickman1966]

I had sent all the pictures and the videos to Fortune his email so he's got them

He's got the one of the lesbians too but I'm sure he's not going to post that he's going to keep that for himself lol

 

[410Fortune]

Pics thus far
Firing order looks good from what I can see
All fuses diode and relays in place

Positive battery terminal looks okay but not great, I would like to see cleaner copper and less exposed, less fray. Some tape would really help. Make sure it is All snug

I can see the recall for cruise control brake switch has never been installed. Need to get one of those installed.. until then unplug the wiring connector at the cruise control switch on the end of the brake master cylinder
That sucker can actually burn up your truck or worse

He sent me a short video Of the dash thus far. So far I see the theft light is flashing normally and goes off when cranking

Same with check engine light, comes on then goes off when cranking

However there is no tachometer signal when cranking, the needle sits there and barely moves

Firing order looks to be correct from what I can see on coil pack

Might want to remove coil pack tower and remove the camshaft position sensor, two 5.5mm screws, then crank the engine and see if the cam sensor is turning
( Maybe lost Timing chain)

I believe you have determined there is no spark
And you have verified there is fuel pressure

 

[Josh P]

He's got the one of the lesbians too but I'm sure he's not going to post that he's going to keep that for himself lol

Hopefully he doesn't let that cat out of the bag...

 

[Josh P]

I'd suggest pulling the wiring harness connector apart to check it for corrosion. It's the black square connector at the back of the engine without a 10mm bolt. I've had a no start issue caused by that.

 

[410Fortune]

This is next step if it was my vehicle


Might want to remove coil pack tower and remove the camshaft position sensor, two 5.5mm screws, then crank the engine and see if the cam sensor is turning
( Maybe lost Timing chain)

 

[Stickman1966]

This is next step if it was my vehicle


Might want to remove coil pack tower and remove the camshaft position sensor, two 5.5mm screws, then crank the engine and see if the cam sensor is turning
( Maybe lost Timing chain)

I will definitely give that a shot

 

[410Fortune]

Battery voltage is very low on the gauge

 

[Josh P]

Battery voltage is very low on the gauge

Look at the positive cable in the picture above, looks like 2 strands left.

 

[Stickman1966]

Look at the positive cable in the picture above, looks like 2 strands left.

okay it's not two strands left guys okay it's not the greatest I understand that but it's well accepting that current. I can appreciate the perfectionist that you guys have become I really can but you knew there was going to be a butt, I roll that way also in my line of work but when it comes to my rigs it's whatever ****ing works + it's not working the battery not being at full volts is not going to cause no spark at the coil at pax you and I both know this so instead of knocking my **** why don't you reach down in deep in your knowledge vault on Ford explorers preferably the 302 V8 motor and tell me what is is wrong. I'm not trying to come across as an asshole I'm just spent, frustrated, and almost completely ready to stick a stick of dynamite in this mother ****er and just watch it ****ing blow up so my apologies if my attitude doesn't measure up to yours. I am right now as we speak double-checking the wires and the wiring from my crankshaft sensor or I'm sorry, I don't know I said it right, crankshaft sensor. you proud of me, Fortune? I'm doing this because my AI chat gpt told me to. because I have eliminated everything else I don't have a broken timing chain it's not fuel related all the grounds are in contact I will add that I forgot to mention well that my tachometer the RPM gauge has not always worked in fact it has not worked more than it has. saying that is intermittent would be a complete understatement so that's why I'm rechecking the wiring on crankshaft sensor. I also will tell you that, I didn't think it was a big deal, but I didn't put back on the crankshaft sensor the metal jacket or cover protector whatever that thing is I didn't put that back on when I replaced the crankshaft sensor. now you're probably going to tell me that I'm a ****ing idiot and that metal jacket protector thingy is supposed to be on to make that read the crankshaft. well I don't know better so if you do tell me that I guess I have to eat it, then. well just to just say I'm putting it back on. it's going to take me four ****ing hours to undo two bolts and to put two bolts back on while holding that protective thingama jig, stupid ****ing metal thing in the right spot so I can get those ****ing bolts threaded again I can't get my hand down there......it's a ************. anyway I'll keep you guys abreast of the sitch

 

[Josh P]

I've had my ass handed to me more than once cause of something as simple as a bad positive battery cable causing a no start. Not a perfectionist thing, and sure it may not be the root cause of your issue today, but eventually it will rise to the top of the list of things needing immediate attention.

 

[410Fortune]

Relax he is just trying to help

Battery terminals and wiring is extremely important
you see one of those feeds the starter only the other one feeds Everything else on the truck

Take a deep breath step back and don’t post those until you've had time to process

 

[Stickman1966]

Relax he is just trying to help

Battery terminals and wiring is extremely important
you see one of those feeds the starter only the other one feeds Everything else on the truck

Take a deep breath step back and don’t post those until you've had time to process

That's just it, I can't process **** right now but I am taking a step back and a deep breath (hocktua) should have seen the size of that loogie...... anyway, I'm going to work on this thing however long it takes tonight to get it running at this point I don't give a **** so I'll get back to you. You guys might be asleep I'm sure Josh goes to bed like around 8:00 oh **** it's past his bedtime.... lol just ****ing with you guys I'll let you know

 

[sandsprayer]

That's just it, I can't process **** right now but I am taking a step back and a deep breath (hocktua) should have seen the size of that loogie...... anyway, I'm going to work on this thing however long it takes tonight to get it running at this point I don't give a **** so I'll get back to you. You guys might be asleep I'm sure Josh goes to bed like around 8:00 oh **** it's past his bedtime.... lol just ****ing with you guys I'll let you know

Dude!
I get it, you are frustrated!
I love busting balls like the next guy.
Right now?
You are biting the hand that feeds you.
They have spent an honest amount of time with you.
Myself?
I would suck it up, and concentrate on making that positive appear like it was factory fresh, and spend less time being a wise guy
Get in line soldier.

 

[410Fortune]

Patience makes the mechanic
Its actually gotta be endless
That’s is not to say we don’t have our moments

How do you eat an elephant?

The one thing that has ALWAYS been there for me is my bronco

 

[Josh P]

What can be crossed off the list of things confirmed good?
The crankshaft sensor is good
Was pats ruled out completely?
Is the 5v reference voltage everywhere it should be?

 

[410Fortune]

Can rule out pats because theft light goes off and 5.0 pats disable starter and injectors
He has no spark

He has vpwr (batt power dist from pcm relay to engine sensors/ injectors pcm) at least at the coil packs so this means
key and tumbler,
ignition switch,
fuse 19 interior (I think it’s 19) and the power diode,
EEC relay and
eec fuse all good

Crank sensor is sending signal to pcm we know this because cel goes out when in start position

So it’s either pcm (which is the ignition module on a 5.0)
Or
Cam not spinning or cam sensor no bueno

However did it not sound
Like he had spark arching at the coil pack in that video?
I’ve always checked spark at a plug
Or with spark tester
Not by pulling wire at coil pack

Hard to see on my phone

 

[Stickman1966]

Can rule out pats because theft light goes off and 5.0 pats disable starter and injectors
He has no spark

He has vpwr (batt power dist from pcm relay to engine sensors/ injectors pcm) at least at the coil packs so this means
key and tumbler,
ignition switch,
fuse 19 interior (I think it’s 19) and the power diode,
EEC relay and
eec fuse all good

Crank sensor is sending signal to pcm we know this because cel goes out when in start position

So it’s either pcm (which is the ignition module on a 5.0)
Or
Cam not spinning or cam sensor no bueno

However did it not sound
Like he had spark arching at the coil pack in that video?
I’ve always checked spark at a plug
Or with spark tester
Not by pulling wire at coil pack

Hard to see on my phone

Can rule out pats because theft light goes off and 5.0 pats disable starter and injectors
He has no spark

He has vpwr (batt power dist from pcm relay to engine sensors/ injectors pcm) at least at the coil packs so this means
key and tumbler,
ignition switch,
fuse 19 interior (I think it’s 19) and the power diode,
EEC relay and
eec fuse all good

Crank sensor is sending signal to pcm we know this because cel goes out when in start position

So it’s either pcm (which is the ignition module on a 5.0)
Or
Cam not spinning or cam sensor no bueno

However did it not sound
Like he had spark arching at the coil pack in that video?
I’ve always checked spark at a plug
Or with spark tester
Not by pulling wire at coil pack

Hard to see on my phone

okay, sand sprayer dude maybe he needs to calm down a little bit I'm not biting the hand that feeds me I believe this man right here fortune and Josh dude is getting my sense of humor I think anyway I have to bring in Scentsy humor because if I don't I will go ****ing crazy seriously. I understand the whole patience part my hat goes off to full-time mechanics who handle it and then don't lose their **** and hold on to their tools and they're not flying through the air at what usually happens something important LOL. I read what you said about the crank sensor since it's showing on the cell that it's communicating with the PCM then the way I have it hooked up is fine yes? like I said I didn't put that metal jacket over the top of it as far as I was concerned I was just something added protection which I probably should have put it on and I'm in the process of putting it on right now so I'll put it on. I just want to say that both you and josh among others but you too I appreciate immensely I want you to know that you guys are the reason why I got on this app and I pay the monthly subscription because the guys like you you're going to tell me what I need to hear and not going to tell me what I want to hear. and I in the meantime will tell you what you don't want to hear and tell you what you need to hear if that makes sense nothing really does at this moment lol I'm actually giggling pretty hard right now at the fact that I'm able to laugh after all of this bullshit anyway I just wanted to get on here and say I'm still trucking at it and I just wanted to say I appreciate both of you guys and I'll be in touch. oh and also Fortune, there was no spark at that coil I was right there with my own eyes and nothing. and let me tell you I've been zapped by that before and that sparked blue in color flew out of that mother ****er right at me while I was holding the plug wire didn't make sense but anyway yeah got me and I saw it and everything so yeah there's no spark + I am going to clean up and mend my positive battery terminal.

 

[Stickman1966]

Dude!
I get it, you are frustrated!
I love busting balls like the next guy.
Right now?
You are biting the hand that feeds you.
They have spent an honest amount of time with you.
Myself?
I would suck it up, and concentrate on making that positive appear like it was factory fresh, and spend less time being a wise guy
Get in line soldier.