2nd Gen 5.0L Performance Mod List

[Blown]

The 351W is a bit taller and wider and the 302 is already tight in there................

 

[Turdle]

Ok, for a change in pace and to entertain and educate the less informed here (namely me) can you more experienced people here tell me why this:

"351W:
Not happening without an automotive engineering degree and a truck load of money."

is true? Size? design? what?

The taller engine makes a custom oil pan necessary to clear the oil pump pickup, crossmember and front differential.

The exhaust ports are higher so custom exhaust manifold will also be needed, ( although the added height will probably make header fabrication easier)


The upper intake would probably need to be changed because the lower intake will be wider, I don't know if there is a lower 351 intake that will accept the explorer upper.

Cam sensor needs to be taller. I suppose one could be made from a 351 distributor though.

Harmonic balancer and flex plate.

Fitting the explorer front dress accessories and brackets might be a hassle also since the brackets bolt to the heads , making them higher with more spread.


Did I miss anything?

 

[traveler]

Nope... Seems like enough reasons to me. thank you.

 

[vroomzoomboom]

Not to mention you might also run into clearance problems with the valve cover to heater box. As mentioned with the pan a 302 will not work at all. The block it wider at the bottom and the mains are larger. I remember a while back someone was trying to put one in, and I think they were trying to use a 3.8 sensor and a 5L cam sensor but the build stopped. I do however remember someone jamming a 351C into one of these things. It was also carbed however.

 

[Centaurus5.0]

The upper intake would probably need to be changed because the lower intake will be wider, I don't know if there is a lower 351 intake that will accept the explorer upper.

93'-95' 351W Lighting lower is a gt40. he explorer upper will bolt right to it.

Problem is, if and when you do find one they want ridiculous money for it, like twice as much than a new Trickflow 351R intake.

 

[traveler]

A Cleveland? Wow... I have a strange belief that when you have to start cutting major sheet metal and make major mods to chassis components to get an engine on you are no longer "modifying" a vehicle but building a new one. Though I am a huge fan of the clevelands.
Well... Guess I'd better start working on that automotive engineering degree. Hehe

 

[Centaurus5.0]

I do however remember someone jamming a 351C into one of these things. It was also carbed however.

I seen a craigslist ad once that had a 351c/c6 combo 4x4 but all they did was put a 2nd gen body on top of an older (70's f150 maybe?) frame. The body was lifted up quite a bit too as I remember.

 

[traveler]

Yea the F-150 lightning 351 was what I was thinking of when I asked about the 351... Now gotta find a salvage lightning that the owners don't know what a lightning is...

 

[Centaurus5.0]

It was @tsmoko I believe who got the farthest at a straight 351w swap.

 

[vroomzoomboom]

I’ll have to do some digging later. It was a white 2nd Gen he painted the block either red or orange, and the guy was from Australia if I remember correctly. I didn’t believe him either until he posted a picture up, and there it was. Was able to tell by the front of the block that houses the timing chain, and coffee table intake

 

[Centaurus5.0]

I’ll have to do some digging later. It was a white 2nd Gen he painted the block either red or orange, and the guy was from Australia if I remember correctly. I didn’t believe him either until he posted a picture up, and there it was. Was able to tell by the front of the block that houses the timing chain, and coffee table intake

I didn't see that one!

 

[vroomzoomboom]

GAH! i know its here! i cant find it!!!! even looked on the facebook page!!! oh well, disregard what i said, and move on...

 

[Zombie Gang]

So what is the best way to add HP & better sound?
I want to either, run straight pipes exhaust from engine, or add a flowmaster (with or without cat)

 

[974X4BLACKSPORT]

The BEST way to add power is to reduce weight.

 

[Zombie Gang]

The BEST way to add power is to reduce weight.

Yes I know that part. Strip it down to nothing but seat, steering wheel, frame, tires, engine!
Don't help with my amp/subs and tools for weight. Adds a good 50lbs
I have taken out ALLOT to reduce weight, but that's pretty much all I have in it
But as far as my suggestions?

 

[Argentimage]

Sell it never happen with a frod

 

[974X4BLACKSPORT]

2nd best way to make power: BOOST! Turbo or supercharger. Cant say which is better, both have pro's and con's, all depends on your application, budget, driving style.

 

[BruceExploder]

2nd best way to make power: BOOST! Turbo or supercharger. Cant say which is better, both have pro's and con's, all depends on your application, budget, driving style.

What about NOS?

 

[974X4BLACKSPORT]

NOS? Unless you drag race, IMO, NOS is just too impracticable for everyday diver.

 

[Zombie Gang]

At the moment I'm looking for simple within $300 exhaust system