30,000 mile service

[TSTONE]

At your mileage you should being doing a chemical additive flush not a traditional service

 

[Rhett]

My '99 is metric.

What bolt was that?

That was one of the front ABS speed sensor housing bolts! heheh
Owning a 94, I too am VERY familiar with that bolt. Or should I say, ex-bolt. It's now ground down into dust.

 

[Rhett]

1st - If they sold you a chemical transflush (ie: transsaver/BG's/Wynns) - there is no reason for removing the pan.

What about dust and sludge left in the transmission from the production line?
What about metal sludge from transmission parts breaking in?
Aren't these legitimate issues regarding a first transmission service?

 

[Rhett]

It's the bolt that holds a protective cover for the ABS speed sensor onto the steering knuckle-- it has to be removed to allow removal of the spindle.

Tell me about it! I dislike that bolt.. ABS bolt

I don't have to worry about it on my pass. side any more though. I've replaced it with a new allen head bolt.

 

[SilverBullet]

So how would I go about flushing the tranny? I'm thinking about doing a shift kit, so I'll have the pan off for that.. could I do it then?

 

[TSTONE]

When using a quality machine & solution - It will breakdown deposits, sludge, and completely flush it all out into a "used fluid resevoir", without recycling it back into the system.

If the trans-flush is properly performed by someone that knows what they are doing and are using quality solutions/products, you should not need to drop the pan or change the filter until you reach higher mileage 80-100K.

 

[SilverBullet]

So is it true that we don't have a drain on the tranny pan?

 

[aldive]

When using a quality machine & solution - It will breakdown deposits, sludge, and completely flush it all out into a "used fluid resevoir", without recycling it back into the system.

If the trans-flush is properly performed by someone that knows what they are doing and are using quality solutions/products, you should not need to drop the pan or change the filter until you reach higher mileage 80-100K.

I would never put any cleaning solvent in either my crankcase or my tranny.

The tranny flush does not need any machine and can be done by anyone in their driveway.

 

[aldive]

So is it true that we don't have a drain on the tranny pan?

Yes, it is true.

 

[TSTONE]

nope no plug - some here have dropped the pan and tapped in plug, but thats true with pretty much all makes.

 

[TSTONE]

The guy asked for an opinion I gave him one - as you are welcome to yours as well.

I deal with this every day and entitled to mine.

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[SilverBullet]

I guess i've just never explored other cars.. my Stealth had drain plugs on the tranny/transfer case/rear diff.

 

[TSTONE]

I do agree with you on the crank case though

 

[aldive]

So how would I go about flushing the tranny? I'm thinking about doing a shift kit, so I'll have the pan off for that.. could I do it then?

It is best to drop the pan ( at least once ) and change the filter, Refill with ATF of your choice and then do the following flush procedure:

I disconnected the "to transmission" hose from my remote filter housing. I plugged and clamped the disconnected line and added and hose clamped a 6 ft length of 3/8? line to the housing. The other end went into a calibrated water jug ( 1 gal size ).

The the truck run at idle while 1 quart is pumped out. Stop the truck andd add back 1 quart of new ATF.

We used 15 quarts of Amsoil ATF.

Even though this ATF ( Amsoil ) has about 40 k miles on it, it still looked remarkably good, just slightly darker in color.

After the flush/fill was completed, I added a new K & N filter to the housing and reattached the hoses.

The procedure took my son and I about 15 minutes to complete. There was no mess since we were well prepared for the flush; nary a drop was spilled.

 

[aldive]

The guy asked for an opinion I gave him one - as you are welcome to yours as well.

I deal with this every day and entitled to mine.

GM CERTIFICATION
Status as of: Oct 28 2004
You are certified as a Collision Consultant/Estimator.
You are not certified as a Parts Consultant
You are certified as a Service Consultant.
You are certified as a Service Manager.
ASE-C1 ASE Certification C1: Automobile Service Consultant P 05/01/2004 06/30/2009 ASE

My comments were not intended to belittle you in any way.

We are looking at the problem from two perspectives; apparantly you do this for a living and sell the service, I am a DIYer and am offering a fellow Explorer enthuisist a simple and cost effective way to do this at home.

 

[TSTONE]

Thats cool - He is currently at a dealership which is the point of reference I was using.

I have much respect for the many opinions of yours that I have read.

 

[Stevelex]

Hey Silver
My Ex was on the rear by a Focus (was at a roundabout stopped, he just went into me) .... pushed my rear bumper in an inch on drivers side....wrote the Focus off... like hitting a brick wall. Ex did need to go on a jig to pull out chasis at the back though.

Cheers

Stevelex

 

[762mm]

It is best to drop the pan ( at least once ) and change the filter, Refill with ATF of your choice and then do the following flush procedure:

I disconnected the "to transmission" hose from my remote filter housing. I plugged and clamped the disconnected line and added and hose clamped a 6 ft length of 3/8? line to the housing. The other end went into a calibrated water jug ( 1 gal size ).

The the truck run at idle while 1 quart is pumped out. Stop the truck andd add back 1 quart of new ATF.

We used 15 quarts of Amsoil ATF.

Even though this ATF ( Amsoil ) has about 40 k miles on it, it still looked remarkably good, just slightly darker in color.

After the flush/fill was completed, I added a new K & N filter to the housing and reattached the hoses.

The procedure took my son and I about 15 minutes to complete. There was no mess since we were well prepared for the flush; nary a drop was spilled.

I did a similar flush myself, but disconnected the ATF aluminum line that goes into the radiator (the upper one) and used that to remove 1 pint of ATF, then add 1 pint through the transmission check/fill tube, for a total of 10 pints. By reading your post, I was wondering if I did it right, because I didn't clamp (or plug) the other end of the line, and it would spill some ATF occasionnally during the flush... Also please tell me what is the remote filter housing - I believed there was only one ATF filter in a stock explorer, the one in the transmission pan (which I also changed - it was a PITA because of the front driveshaft that I chose not to disconnect). Thanks.

 

[aldive]

Also please tell me what is the remote filter housing - I believed there was only one ATF filter in a stock explorer, the one in the transmission pan (which I also changed - it was a PITA because of the front driveshaft that I chose not to disconnect). Thanks.

The remote filter is an add on.

Take a look at the following thread for more information:

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34136&highlight=transmission+filter