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Weird, I don’t have any problems getting parts for my two explorers.
Same, lots here in CA.
I worked at a Ford dealership through all of it. Sad thing is those vehicles were only bringing $2500 as trade ins at the time. The cash for clunkers program gave $4500 so it was a no brainer for anyone trading in. Just sucked seeing some nice ones die and how long some would run on no oil and liquid glass was amazing
I've seen some of those videos, these Explorers are impressively tough! Even the SOHC ones.
 



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Weird, I don’t have any problems getting parts for my two explorers.
This could be due to different markets, but I've found it quicker to simply order from RockAuto, and much cheaper too. Some retailers can order parts in and it usually takes 2-3 days minimum to get them. I was amazed when I found a lower radiator hose at NAPA a couple of weeks ago but the counter guy told me flat out that it wouldn't be restocked in the future. Heater hoses are an issue too, my '01 has five molded heater hoses, but one is discontinued and none of the others are stocked locally. Let's see, I had to buy coild from two different businesses. Ones a Carquest and ones from Oreillys. Both companies only keep one locally. The same with plug wires, the late 5.0s used different plug wires from the other 5.0 truck engines and the only decent set I found in town had an inch of dust on it, the box was torn from the last guy who returned it. I was glad to find it. Yup, I'm coming down off of ignition and vacuum leak issues.
 






I haven't found too many normal maintenance parts hard to get so far. Granted I don't look for those in the junkyard and rarely shop at the local chain stores, but when I do go to a chain store they can usually have what I need the next day.

Why give button pusher AutoZone the money, when I can get the exact same part from RockAuto for half the price. Might take a few extra days to get, but that isn't a problem. If the button pusher was value added sure, but I've only found that once. She was very much value added and I was buying all of my parts in store for the duration of the engine swap and rebuild into my Ranger. I was in O'Reilly at least once a week from January to July. I made sure to buy a few things at a time and spread it out for a reason to stop in. Of course I couldn't admit my real reason and the excuse given was spreading out the expense. She got a better job about the time I finished up getting it running and I've hardly been there since. I know where she works now, I need to stop making excuses not to and go visit.

Sorry, I was rambling there and I already do that enough without getting off subject. So, back to the topic at hand.

There are a lot more self service and salvage yards out there than that company, and there are a whole lot of parts sitting in them. I'm not going to limit my searching to a single year and drivetrain. Many parts are direct swap between the years, and many of those that aren't can still be used with a little effort. I do understand that there are som items that are a bit more specialized like the intake tube I was looking for last week. Move away from things directly conected to the engine and transmission most parts are interchangable regardless of if it is a V6 or V8 (or I4 for the Ranger owners).

I just took a gander at Car-Part.com for reference I searched for a 5.0L 2wd rear driveshaft for and Explorer. Seven pages of results at 50 hits per page. Changed to AWD rear driveshaft and it gave another 19 pages. That's over 1000 hits for potential donors from yards that choose to list on there, there are many that don't and no self service yards are on there.

I had to get creative trying to replace the stupid crook shaped molded vacuum hose under the intake manifold plenum, and ended up routing bulk hose

Yup, I'm coming down off of ignition and vacuum leak issues.

I'm dealing with that on my Ranger V8 swap now. I retained the Explorer heater pipes, but if the molded hoses ever become completely obsolete, I'll remove the pipes and run straight hoses like the V6s did. Atleast the ones in the 4.0L OHV Rangers went straight from the intake and waterpump to the firewall with a valve in the middle, no hard pipe.

I seem to have a leak in that vacuum manifold too. Mine is on the nipple for the back line. Don;t know if it's leaking under vacuum, but it was under the pressure from my smoke machine. I don't think the line is bad I think that it might be routed wrong around the fuel hardline, and holding the hose at an odd angle. When I have the intake back off to replace the injectors I'm going to reroute the hose and probably add a spring clamp on the end.

Thought for replacement on that PCV hose manifold just occoured to me after reading your post. When/if I have to replace those vacuum hoses, I don't really want to run bulk out around the plenum, and that bend is probably tight enough to kink/collapse the hose under the intake. What about making a hard "crook shaped" line? Take a piece of tube in the right size, bend to shape, then use short pieces of vacuum hose to connect at the ends. Throw some black paint on it and it'll hide under the intake like a normal vacuum line. Piece of copper tube would be easy to bend and likely last for ever under there. Throw a slight flare on the ends to help with hose retention, though it probably wouldn't be an issue under vacuum.
 






Many of the molded hoses are now repaired using a cut to fit hose for another application
Sometimes you will have to do some
Plumbing like splice two hoses together or use a brass tee, etc
I am always able to find what I need by taking my part with me to the parts store and compare to their wall of hoses, or cobble something together from the junk yard

I consider this par for the course when re habbing older vehicles… not everything comes off a shelf
 






I had three primary vacuum leaks. The first was at the elbow that the EGR bolts to. I really didn't want to separate the elbow from the plenum since nobody lists a replacement gasket for that joint. When I got it apart, the bottom of the gasket was soft and seemingly waterlogged. I made a gasket for it but later realized that it actually is available, but the parts store catalogues list it as a "throttle body" gasket and show a choice of two. One of these gaskets is for the TB itself, and the other is for the elbow to plenum.

The second, and possibly the second major cause of my issues was the PCV grommet. The original part had hardened and shrunk considerably. When I tugged lightly on the PCV hose everything came out, grommet and all. The parts house grommet was too small and could not possibly seal. After a little research I found a post listing Ford part number F7CZ-6A892-AA, and this one did work properly. I also replaced the PCV valve itself to be thorough. It did have 225,000 miles on it. I was deep enough into it that I also replaced every vacuum and coolant line going to the plenum. Yes, there are two small coolant lines going from the coolant pipes to the plenum. I suspect it is to stabilize the plenum temp for consistency. These are available from the parts houses, but take a sample in because the average button pusher (I like that term) will simply tell you that heater hoses were never made that small.

Third, and probably the star of the show was the "F" vacuum fitting in the PCV lines at the back left corner of the engine. The PCV hose comes off the PCV valve then splits at the "F" fitting, one vacuum line goes to the RT side of the plenum, and the other comes directly off the vacuum bung at the left rear of the plenum and has a roughly 2-3 inch piece of hose on it. This stupid plastic F fitting had broken in the center where you can't really quite see it, and nobody I've found has a 3/8 "F" fitting anymore. I came close to ripping the plenum off the only 5.0 Explorer at Upullit to get those rear vacuum lines, including the afore cursed "crook" hose. Removal goes a lot faster when you don't have to put it back together.

My "crook" hose was actually intact, but had hardened to the point of being brittle and broke in my hands. This cost me a lot of time since I foolishly tried to duplicate the factory routing for simplicitys sake. Smaller diameter hose kinked at the radius, I tried different brands and types of hose and they all kinked when left in place overnight. I bought a section of Nicopp brake line which is easier to bend by hand than steel and it kinked as well. At the end of my rope, I ended up running a hose from that front vacuum bung all the way around the outside of the plenum on the LT side, securing it with zip ties and adding a wiring loom cover to protect it, That last part was probably overkill. Since I couldn't reuse the F fitting, I ended up cutting the PCV hose and added a nylon "T" fitting. Quite an adventure.

For claritys sake, when I refer to the left (LT) side of the vehicle, I am using the standard terminology of the drivers side being the left side.
 






Many of the molded hoses are now repaired using a cut to fit hose for another application
Sometimes you will have to do some
Plumbing like splice two hoses together or use a brass tee, etc
I am always able to find what I need by taking my part with me to the parts store and compare to their wall of hoses, or cobble something together from the junk yard

I consider this par for the course when re habbing older vehicles… not everything comes off a shelf

We just need to look to Cuba for ideas. LOL

They've been able to keep their cars from the '50s running with fork lift engines and spit. 🤣
 


















What place?
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It's right there in the post. He may have messed up the link address, but it's easy enough to figure out.

We just need to look to Cuba for ideas. LOL

They've been able to keep their cars from the '50s running with fork lift engines and spit. 🤣

Don't forget the "poor man's turbo".

For those that don't know/remember it's a F&F 8 reference.
 






:confused2:

It's right there in the post. He may have messed up the link address, but it's easy enough to figure out.



Don't forget the "poor man's turbo".

For those that don't know/remember it's a F&F 8 reference.
So , what place?
 






I think greensalescompany.com
 






So , what place?

Are memes allowed here? I hope memes are allowed here.

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Are you trolling? I almost hope you're trolling, but your post count and history doesn't seem to suggest that.

Green Sales Company is the place he was talking about.

Green Sales Company
2172 E Seymour Ave
Cincinnati, OH 45237
1-800-543-4959

Website: www.greensalescompany.com

Never used them myself, but they seem to buy up obsolete Ford parts stock. I've heard them mentioned in the classic Ford truck circles.
 












I've wondered if there's a list somewhere of the mechanical parts in the Explorers, that were also used in other Ford vehicles. That would give options of getting parts from a different model of Ford.
 






You would be thinking about an interchange list, and yes they do exist to an extent. I haven't seen it published where the general public can access it, but most salvage yards have access to one.

I would say that their accuracy is somewhat questionable. I have had them try to sell me parts saying that they interchange when the definitely would not, but that could have been an issue with the people rather than the database.

There's also the issue of some components can be made to work in other applications with a little ingenuity, but are not officially recognized as being compatible.

Often times I'll consult RockAuto and see what other applications a part is listed for. It isn't 100%, but usually good enough.

Unfortunately these V8 Explorers are somewhat unique. Ford had all but abandoned the 5.0 by the time it was placed in these, and nothing else used quite the same version of it. Small parts like sensors and injectors may be shared with other vehicles. I think the transmission may be shared with the 3.8L V6. Rear axle is unique, but the front axle is mostly the same as a Ranger. The V6 versions have a bit more interchangeability with the Ranger and Mustang that shared the engine.

That's my 2¢ on the subject, and probably an overestimation of it's value.
 












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