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5.0 AWD Mounty upgrades for better fuel mileage review
Seems there has been alot of questions about gas mileage upgrades lately (gee, I wonder why?), so I thought I would share a few of the things I have done.
First off, I started with a bone stock '99 Mounty with AWD and 5.0. It had just over 100k on it when I purchased it. I started with about 13/18mpg city/hwy. It actually did about 15mpg average commuting several miles to work and back, but the worse gas mileage (13) was in the dead of winter commuting leas than 3 miles. This engine REALLY runs rich in cold weather when it is not up to temp.
-First mod: synthetic engine oil. I chose to use Shell Rotella T 5w40 synthetic, because I know this is an excellent oil. The only thing I would recommend over it is Mobil 1. I had no mileage increase with this mod, but definately a peace of mind that the engine will live a full life.
-Second mod: K&N drop-in air filter. Little change in mileage or power that I can feel.
-Third mod: ported stock throttle body. Definately a different feel with the throttle (more touchy off idle), but very little fuel mileage increase or noticable power increase. The computer took a few days to adjust.
-Fourth mod: Cat-back exhaust mod. I removed the rear cats and replaced them with 2.25" straight pipes, replaced the stock muffler with a dual 2.25" inlets and single 2.5" outlet. Again, the computer took a few days to adjust. It was initially very rich and gas mileage dropped, but returned to normal once the computer adjusted.
-Fifth mod: Torque monster headers. Top-notch product!!! I got my headers about 2 weeks ago, and they came with the new EGR tube that directly bolts on. Install took about 6 hours on a very HOT afternoon. The heat slowed me down, but the install really went well. I also changed the spark plugs out at the same time, which smoothed the idle nicely. Once again, TOP-NOTCH product. Fit and finish was beautiful. I noticed a little power increase, but I really didnt have time to log any fuel mileage difference or dyno to prove power difference. The engine has a real nice "tinny" sound to it when running now. I did the next mod less than a week after this one. I would also like to note that I found the front two exhaust manifold bolts on both sides of the engine were very LOOSE and obviously leaking past the original exhaust gasket. I would advise any of you that have over 100k miles to check yours if you arent installing headers soon.
-Sixth mod: Xcal 3 from Explorer Express with tunes from Doug at Bamachips. WOW!!! What a difference!! I think this is where all the recent mods came together in beautiful harmony. With the 87 Performance program, my power and fuel mileage instantly jumped up. With the 91 Performance program, she flat out pulls HARD and the engine sounds like an angry swarm of bees.
Two days after I received the Xcal 3, we left on vacation. I took the Mounty and pulled my 2000 pound tent trailer from WA State to Nebraska. At a 60mph average, we were able to maintain about 18mpg. Coming across Nebraska at a 70mph average with a headwind, we only got about 15mpg. The entire trip here we averaged 17.1mpg over a 1500 mile distance. Calculations were based on gallons used per miles driven, not on the vehicles computer reading. Not bad, considering I was pulling a 2000 pound tent trailer!!
Notes of importance:
-speed makes a HUGE difference in mileage. The sweet spot seems to be around 60, but no more than 65mph.
-the Performance tunes seemed to work best for fuel mileage. No apparant difference in mileage between the 87 Performance or 91 Performance, but the 91 Performance definately pulls harder. The 91 Torque tune dropped the mileage and seemed to have no advantage over either tune.
-I accidently chose fuel with 10% Ethanol twice, because I was focused on getting 91 octane. This happened at the same time I was running higher speeds in Nebraska, which could have definately effected the drop in mileage. I will to more testing on the trip back.
-I was running 40psi in my tires.
-Fuel mileage seems to be up about 1.5mpg for city driving. I think the AWD is the culprit that is hurting the city driving so much.
I will be running a little Marvels Mystery Oil in the Mounty on the trip back to see if I can get a little better mileage.
Seems there has been alot of questions about gas mileage upgrades lately (gee, I wonder why?), so I thought I would share a few of the things I have done.
First off, I started with a bone stock '99 Mounty with AWD and 5.0. It had just over 100k on it when I purchased it. I started with about 13/18mpg city/hwy. It actually did about 15mpg average commuting several miles to work and back, but the worse gas mileage (13) was in the dead of winter commuting leas than 3 miles. This engine REALLY runs rich in cold weather when it is not up to temp.
-First mod: synthetic engine oil. I chose to use Shell Rotella T 5w40 synthetic, because I know this is an excellent oil. The only thing I would recommend over it is Mobil 1. I had no mileage increase with this mod, but definately a peace of mind that the engine will live a full life.
-Second mod: K&N drop-in air filter. Little change in mileage or power that I can feel.
-Third mod: ported stock throttle body. Definately a different feel with the throttle (more touchy off idle), but very little fuel mileage increase or noticable power increase. The computer took a few days to adjust.
-Fourth mod: Cat-back exhaust mod. I removed the rear cats and replaced them with 2.25" straight pipes, replaced the stock muffler with a dual 2.25" inlets and single 2.5" outlet. Again, the computer took a few days to adjust. It was initially very rich and gas mileage dropped, but returned to normal once the computer adjusted.
-Fifth mod: Torque monster headers. Top-notch product!!! I got my headers about 2 weeks ago, and they came with the new EGR tube that directly bolts on. Install took about 6 hours on a very HOT afternoon. The heat slowed me down, but the install really went well. I also changed the spark plugs out at the same time, which smoothed the idle nicely. Once again, TOP-NOTCH product. Fit and finish was beautiful. I noticed a little power increase, but I really didnt have time to log any fuel mileage difference or dyno to prove power difference. The engine has a real nice "tinny" sound to it when running now. I did the next mod less than a week after this one. I would also like to note that I found the front two exhaust manifold bolts on both sides of the engine were very LOOSE and obviously leaking past the original exhaust gasket. I would advise any of you that have over 100k miles to check yours if you arent installing headers soon.
-Sixth mod: Xcal 3 from Explorer Express with tunes from Doug at Bamachips. WOW!!! What a difference!! I think this is where all the recent mods came together in beautiful harmony. With the 87 Performance program, my power and fuel mileage instantly jumped up. With the 91 Performance program, she flat out pulls HARD and the engine sounds like an angry swarm of bees.
Two days after I received the Xcal 3, we left on vacation. I took the Mounty and pulled my 2000 pound tent trailer from WA State to Nebraska. At a 60mph average, we were able to maintain about 18mpg. Coming across Nebraska at a 70mph average with a headwind, we only got about 15mpg. The entire trip here we averaged 17.1mpg over a 1500 mile distance. Calculations were based on gallons used per miles driven, not on the vehicles computer reading. Not bad, considering I was pulling a 2000 pound tent trailer!!
Notes of importance:
-speed makes a HUGE difference in mileage. The sweet spot seems to be around 60, but no more than 65mph.
-the Performance tunes seemed to work best for fuel mileage. No apparant difference in mileage between the 87 Performance or 91 Performance, but the 91 Performance definately pulls harder. The 91 Torque tune dropped the mileage and seemed to have no advantage over either tune.
-I accidently chose fuel with 10% Ethanol twice, because I was focused on getting 91 octane. This happened at the same time I was running higher speeds in Nebraska, which could have definately effected the drop in mileage. I will to more testing on the trip back.
-I was running 40psi in my tires.
-Fuel mileage seems to be up about 1.5mpg for city driving. I think the AWD is the culprit that is hurting the city driving so much.
I will be running a little Marvels Mystery Oil in the Mounty on the trip back to see if I can get a little better mileage.