5 speed starter location??

[jd4242]

Whats the difference in a 5 speed with the starter on the passenger side verse the drivers? ? What whould need to be changed to use one verses the other?? Can the bell house just be swapped? Is it removable? ? I cant find any 4.0 5speeds but found a 2.9 which I know will work but think it has the starter on the passenger side.im pretty sure my 94 4.0 has it on the drivers. .

 

[delexploder]

I am pretty sure my friend has a few 5spd for the 4.0 ,if you are interested I'll get up with him and see

 

[jd4242]

I am pretty sure my friend has a few 5spd for the 4.0 ,if you are interested I'll get up with him and see

Sure.where you located at tho and any of them good? I dont wanna spend a bunch of money because its getting pulled in a couple months for my motor trans swap.just need something to get by till then.I cant afford to drive my explorer as a DD.gas is $4.02 here and im getting under 10 mpg now plus I keep getting pulled and tickets

 

[jd4242]

I found the 2.9 for cheap.just need to know what needs to be swapped to use a passenger side starter trans?? Or can I just swap my bellhouse onto the 2.9?? Is the bellhouse removable? ? Obviously I haven't had or seen a m5 off vehicle

 

[jd4242]

From what im reading its probably a 2.3. Maybe the guy doesn't know what he is talking about or maybe the picture is real bad and the start is kn the drivers not passenger. .

 

[snoranger]

From what im reading its probably a 2.3. Maybe the guy doesn't know what he is talking about or maybe the picture is real bad and the start is kn the drivers not passenger. .

Both the 2.9 and 4.0 use the same bellhousing and starter location.

 

[jd4242]

Both the 2.9 and 4.0 use the same bellhousing and starter location.

On the drivers side right?? This has to be from a 2.3 unless the pics just suck.ive emailed him back and asked.

 

[colintrax]

Idk about the 2.9 or 4.0 but my 2.3 has the starter on the passenger side.
If you wanna swap sides, you'll need to use longer wires to cross over. Probably need the starter for that transmission as well, but I don't see any other reasons it wouldn't work.

 

[jd4242]

Idk about the 2.9 or 4.0 but my 2.3 has the starter on the passenger side.
If you wanna swap sides, you'll need to use longer wires to cross over. Probably need the starter for that transmission as well, but I don't see any other reasons it wouldn't work.

Pretty sure it uses a different bellhouse, clutch, flywheel, flexplate.....as far as I know it wont bolt up and the 4.0 m5 doesnt have a removable bellhouse

 

[colintrax]

Pretty sure it uses a different bellhouse, clutch, flywheel, flexplate.....as far as I know it wont bolt up and the 4.0 m5 doesnt have a removable bellhouse

I mean the 2.9 shouldn't be a problem to swap. I know the 2.3 will be different, but I was simply stating that it has the starter on the passenger side. In case you were wondering

 

[jd4242]

I mean the 2.9 shouldn't be a problem to swap. I know the 2.3 will be different, but I was simply stating that it has the starter on the passenger side. In case you were wondering

Gotcha yea this dude swears its a 2.9 but the starter looks to be on the passenger. .ill see when he responds

 

[5spdman]

Just posted this in another thread, but here's a quick pic of an M5OD:

This is the M5OD out of my 93 sport that is currently sitting in my 91 XLT, but cleaned up, new slave and fresh fluids...as you can see, almost everything from the bell housing to the extension housing is all one piece, and the starter is on the driver side (and I'm sure of this as I just had to take it out to replace the slave only two weeks ago.)

 

[colintrax]

Gotcha yea this dude swears its a 2.9 but the starter looks to be on the passenger. .ill see when he responds

Ok good luck. On the upside the 2.3 does have a lower first gear

 

[jd4242]

Ok good luck. On the upside the 2.3 does have a lower first gear

2.9 has a lower 1-3 gear also than the 4.0

 

[jd4242]

Just posted this in another thread, but here's a quick pic of an M5OD:

This is the M5OD out of my 93 sport that is currently sitting in my 91 XLT, but cleaned up, new slave and fresh fluids...as you can see, almost everything from the bell housing to the extension housing is all one piece, and the starter is on the driver side (and I'm sure of this as I just had to take it out to replace the slave only two weeks ago.)

Sweet thanks

 

[colintrax]

2.9 has a lower 1-3 gear also than the 4.0

Really? Good to know thanks

 

[jd4242]

Really? Good to know thanks

Yep people swap them all the time for off roading.topd its much for a DD in city tho, especially if you got low rear gears..

 

[snoranger]

The 2.8, 2.9, (3.0... not 100% sure on this one, im getting old. But it doesnt matter, the bolt pattern is different.) and 4.0 all have the starter on the driver side. The 2.3/2.5 has the starter on the pass side.

Unless the pic is upside down , it won't work.

 

[jd4242]

The 2.8, 2.9, (3.0... not 100% sure on this one, im getting old. But it doesnt matter, the bolt pattern is different.) and 4.0 all have the starter on the driver side. The 2.3/2.5 has the starter on the pass side.

Unless the pic is upside down , it won't work.

Thanks.figured that but wasn't sure.he hasnt answered my emails but I found a low mileage jasper rebuilt unit that the guy broke the mount on it.going to pick it up tomorrow and swap tail sections with mine.

Also ordered new flywheel and one of those cheap stage 3 clutches off ebay...yeaaa I know but only needs to last three or so months so ranger should be back running next weekend

 

[jd4242]

Hey anyone know what these two plugs are on the trans?? Guessing the one on passenger side is the reverse switch but what is the other?? Neutral safety switch??