86'v8 swap a good idea for a 91'

[91'explorer 2wd]

i've found a great healthy v8 for my truck, i only got a few Q's. now the 5.0's from an 86'F-150 and it's in pretty good condition. would it work being an 86' and would i also be able 2 use the tranny from it? my friend's dad is the one i'm buying it from, and he said i could pull out whatever else was needed 2 accomplish the swap what else could i use from the F-150, though i'm not going 2 do it a local motor shop is going 2 do the swap i'd still like 2 know what is going 2 be usable. any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[fordkrazy]

to be emmisions legal you need to have a motor that is at least as new as your vehicle. i beleive the 86 truck had a computer controlled carburator so you will have to change it to fuel injection.

 

[91'explorer 2wd]

it is fuel injection

 

[rpenner54]

You probably would have better luck with a newer mustang engine. The problem with the truck engines is they are tall. Taller then a mustang and so they don't usually fit in the engine bay. At least that is what I have read. Also you should do a check on your state laws regarding this sort of a swap due to the differn't years of vehicles.

 

[fordkrazy]

well if its FI then you could probably get away with it being older than your exp. as far as emmissions go(depending on where you live and how strict inspections are) but like rpenner says the truck engine is taller. i think that its just the uppermanifold that makes it taller. you could get an aftermarket intake for a mustang and then get a chip made for the computer to compensate for the different intake. anyway i think that the biggest issue, at least that i believe, is how do you get even the block,heads, and exauhst to fit? im in the planning stages of this swap too so if you find out any info on measurement methods and fit then let me know. good luck

 

[91'explorer 2wd]

out of curiosity

What are u planning on dropping in your truck fordkrazy? 302??

 

[fordkrazy]

im going to use a 302. thats about the only thing i am sure of right now.

 

[91'explorer 2wd]

still don't know where your gonna get the motor from?

 

[fordkrazy]

no i dont. i was looking into SEHR engines www.sehrpower.com but i just recieved a crappy email from them. so im not sure who im going to use. here is the email

Ford Krazy,
Yes that is the engine that will work but the one you want is our SEHR351W01
Where there is a will there is a way. We have one ready to go new GT40 heads
adjustable Roller rockers KB 9.5 comp Comp cam fully balanced with balancer
and flexplate. This engine lives on pump gas and has a ton of torque and can
be driven as a daily driver.
This engine is priced ready to go at $4599.00
Let me know
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: fordkrazy <fordkrazy@provalue.net>
To: sehr@sehrpower.com <sehr@sehrpower.com>
Date: Saturday, March 24, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: 5.0 conversion project


>I am going to put a 5.0 in my 94 explorer and am interested in having
>you build my engine. it needs to be very reliable for daily driving and
>highway use and it needs to be built for fuel injection. would your 302
>listed on you site be what im looking for part# seh-302-02 or do i need
>something else. any information that might help me will be greatly
>appreciated. thanks

well needless to say the 351 wont fit and its like a grand more than the 302 i was looking at. sounds to me like i need to find someone else.

 

[RFR2212]

Have ya checked www.dssracing.com ? This is where it looks like im gonna get my main motor work done.
Pete

 

[91'explorer 2wd]

What's your budget for the swap?

 

[fordkrazy]

well i looked a dss racing and they seem pretty pricy and more geard to racing. sehr makes racing engines but also daily driver hot rod engines. well they sent me an apology email and so im not sure what to do. here is the email

Fordkrazy,

Sorry I get caught up in the saying bigger is better.
OK SR302-02 with GT40 heads compatable multiport $3499.00
Balance engine
$125.00
Balance kit (harmonic balancer and flexplate)
$195.00
Comp cam upgrade
$100.00
Crate fee
$65.00
Total
$3984.00
If you like to stroke the 302 to a 347CI Add $400.00
If you like to get one ordered we need about 4-5 weeks to build it
They are built to run on pump gas and be driven every day.
Thanks
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: fordkrazy <fordkrazy@provalue.net>
To: Scott Sehr <scott@sehrpower.com>
Date: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: 5.0 conversion project


>Umm.... i wasn't expecting a sales pitch on an engine that wouldn't fit in
my
>car and is almost a 1,000 more than the one that will. where theres a will
>theres a way? well my wallet doesn't let my will get its way. to fit that
extra
>2 or so inches of width and height your talking major fabrication work. the
5.0
>is a very tight squeeze and requires some fabricated parts. i know i am
going
>to use a 5.0 so what i wanted to know is can you build me a daily driver FI
5.0
>with the advertised HP of your ser-302-02 and what will be the cost.
>
>Scott Sehr wrote:
>
>> Ford Krazy,
>> Yes that is the engine that will work but the one you want is our
SEHR351W01
>> Where there is a will there is a way. We have one ready to go new GT40
heads
>> adjustable Roller rockers KB 9.5 comp Comp cam fully balanced with
balancer
>> and flexplate. This engine lives on pump gas and has a ton of torque and
can
>> be driven as a daily driver.
>> This engine is priced ready to go at $4599.00
>> Let me know
>> Jack

what do you guys think?
my budget will be around 6grand. thats about what chris johnson spent on rebuilding his 4.0

 

[91'explorer 2wd]

302

That 302 sounds like it can haul a$$ and it sounds like a good idea.

 

[fordkrazy]

i just hope they are customer friendly. and willing to stand by their work.

 

[LukeDog3D]

Hey Fordkrazy,

Have you considered a bodylift to get 2 or 3 inches of vertical clearance under the hood? The motor is attatched to the frame, so lifting the body will give you the extra inches under the hood...or you could do like Mel and Stace and get a cowl induction hood...or both.

 

[Sandy]

'86 5.0L

The '86 would work if you used a Mass Air conversion kit.
The Ford unit is complete and they do know all of the parts.
The Truck EFI manifold is designed for low end torque, more so than the Mustang but mayn not flow as well.

If you are looking into engine packages, what about the Ford crate motors ?
Guys around here (MA) have been using the "Jasper" engines. I do not know the pricing but they are not cheap.
I would think any complete engine will be pricey.

I'd build the '86 up with a low end cam from Comp Cams and use the mass air kit from Ford. Maybe roller rockers, and if money provides a low end manifold, i.e. Edelbrock, Trickflow. Also concider larger Mass Air sensor than stock (73mm) and a throttle body (70mm). Don't go to big but atleast larger than stock (Truck maller than Mustang type). Don't forget a good pair of headers. (L&L)


Good Luck,