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93 Explorer Grind And Clunk 4x4

BigWilby

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Hey Folks i have a 93 explorer 4x4.when i put it in 4x4 its fine just a little clicking.....probably a hub problem.But when i take it out of 4x4 about 1/2 mile down the road it makes a horrible clunking sound like a flat tire would make at 45 mph.I stop and then go again and it stops.What could this be.4x4 has not been used since i had it(2 Years).Any answers would be helpful.Also i just changed the plug wires,plugs and ignition coil and it still hesitates...fuel pump and filter is my only guess.....anyone else want to guess.
 



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Welcome to the boards...it's most likely just the 4x4 disengaging. It will thump and clunk when you engage/disengage the system. Both of the 1st gen X's I have owned did it all the time.

BTW, moving the post to stock 91-94 forum.
 






WOW! My 94 has NEVER done that, I don't think that's remotely normal. You might hear the 4x4 engage with a single (or very short number) of clunks, but it should never sound like you're driving on a flat (which to me means the noise never stops).

I once did have a problem with the 4x4 not engaging and disengaging correctly, there are two main causes for that. Since the 4x4 hasn't been used in at least two years, you're most likely a candidate for one or both of these.

The first thing costs you no money. Pull the auto hubs. Remove the spring cams, clean all grease off of them with parts cleaner, toothbrush, etc. Clean any grease off the spindle, and reinstall the cams without grease. Thoroughly clean out all grease in the hubs, fill with ATF, let soak (at least an hour or overnight is better), drain and reinstall. Do NOT put any grease in the hub or on the spindle. Grease is the enemy of properly operating auto hubs.

If that doesn't solve the problem, take a look at your u-joints. Do a search on this forum for the proper inspection/replacement techniques. These are a very common failure, and caused my disengaging problem (which was fixed when the u-joints were replaced).

Beyond those two things, which by far are the most common issues that would cause the sound you're hearing, there are other more expensive possibilites, but definitely eliminate these two first.

BTW, I have over 263,000 miles on my 94 (put 210,000 plus on it myself), and don't get the noise you are describing.

Good luck, keep us posted.

Mike
 






My assumption is that it was a single loud klunk when engaging or disengaging. If it is continuous, then you do indeed have a problem.
 






a sticky hub maybe.
 






my 91 made god aweful noises all the time, even when i wasnt in 4wd. if i turned the wheel all the way to one side the auto hubs tried to engage. get rid of those, warn manuals are the way to go (if you have $200 laying around)
 






Correctly cleaned and lubricated auto hubs are the way to go.

Warn manuals are great for people that really want/need them (people who offroad a lot, or who don't want to keep up with the auto hub maintenance).

But, not everyone who has auto hub trouble needs to replace them with manual hubs. Cleaning and maintaing the auto hubs should be job 1.

Also, if you have u-joint problems, it doesn't matter which hubs you have, u-joints have a finite service life.

Sorry, I guess watching others tell people to replace auto hubs with manual hubs at the first sign of trouble is "sort of" a major pet peeve of mine on these forums...

Mike
 






i wasnt offering a manual hub swap as a quick fix to any problem, its just been my experience with auto hubs that the manual hub is an all around better way to go if you plan on using your 4 wheel drive system frequently, and yes the ease of care required with the manual hubs is a plus. I have found manual hubs to offer a better range of movement of the front end of the vehicle while the 4 wheel drive system is engaged.
 






Interesting, never would have thought manual vs. auto hubs would affect range of movement. Manuals do solve a number of problems, but for the average driver, auto hubs are just fine (but do require some TLC).

Mike
 






they are junk no matter what you do. lol
 






lol is right. Like I said, you hit a soft spot, I like my auto hubs (which have lasted 263,000 + miles) just as much as you like your manuals.

True, I don't offroad (except in my backyard), but I do get to stay warm and dry when I need to engage/disengage my 4x4 in the snow and freezing rain... :)

Hey, I just noticed that you have another 100K on me. When I make it to that mileage with these auto hubs, will that convice you they're not junk? ;)

Mike
 






maybe its just me but i noticed that when i was cuttin the wheels really hard with the auto hubs the front end made a noise and seamed bound up.. or it could of been that my auto hubs were fallin apart. i dont know.
 






the first set i blew had 364,000 miles on them... i started doin tug of wars against duallys and wheeling ect. i have blown 5 sets and a transfercase in the last 3000 miles....but for a DD that sees 4x4 in the snow i have no disrespect but anything else the suck...BTW i still run the auto hubs....lolololol some people...me...never learn.
 






Four0Sport : its the auto hubs engaging and disengaging repetitevly (sp)
 






OK, I think you've just confirmed that it's not ME that needs counseling... :)

Just to recap:

You went 360,000 plus miles on the original auto hubs.

You started putting the truck through extreme use that Explorers are probably not designed for (hence blowing t-cases too), then your auto hubs failed.

You put new auto hubs on and keep breaking them.

Your conclusion is to tell daily drivers who experience their first problem to immediately go to manual hubs, because auto hubs "suck."

Yikes... Unless you're intentionally feeding me (which would be funny), you my friend are the poster child of my pet peeve.
 






no ...all i am saying is IMO,the auto hubs arent as reliable as manual...im not trying to sell the idea of converting. im simply saying i dont like them .......the only reason im still using them is I have gotten several sets for about $10 bucks or less each....Swap meets and friends....
 






You could make a killing on ebay...
 






yea its the same way with alot of parts for me... im not out to make money.....i do a lot of work on buddies trucks for free and if i have the parts laying around theyre free for them as well.
 






Hey Folks i have a 93 explorer 4x4.when i put it in 4x4 its fine just a little clicking.....probably a hub problem.But when i take it out of 4x4 about 1/2 mile down the road it makes a horrible clunking sound like a flat tire would make at 45 mph.I stop and then go again and it stops.What could this be.4x4 has not been used since i had it(2 Years).Any answers would be helpful.Also i just changed the plug wires,plugs and ignition coil and it still hesitates...fuel pump and filter is my only guess.....anyone else want to guess.

i had the same problem with my 93 sport i replaced my ball joints and my radius arm bushings. i think it was the radius arm bushing but anyway that should cure your problem
 



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