Anyone tried a Tornado?

[R1dd1cK]

Well it is possible for you to get better gas mileage but it will be costly. The jokers that say way don't you get a car that has better MPG's are missing the point. If you like the car you have why not try to make it better. I like my explorer and better fuel econ would be nice but if I can find ways to make it get better MPG why not. If you plan to keep if for a long time why not try to make it be all it can be.

 

[gear_grinder]

snake oil, period...

 

[swshawaii]

I do plan on getting a K&N cold air intake after I get the needs met first (new tires, fenders, liftgate) i have put cold air on my last 4 vehicles and it only gives 3-5 mpg increase but I like being able to clean my filters.

ONLY 3-5 MPG from an open air intake? You're delusional, especially with your "mixed" city and highway driving.

Any torque/HP gain on aftermarket intakes occurs ABOVE 3000 RPM. And you have to ask if the "Tornado" works? :scratch:

 

[FIND]

I do plan on getting a K&N cold air intake after I get the needs met first (new tires, fenders, liftgate) i have put cold air on my last 4 vehicles and it only gives 3-5 mpg increase but I like being able to clean my filters.

Nevermind, you should definitely get a Tornado.

 

[LUVITLO]

I originally got a cold air to try to boos milage on my old Tracker but I got hooked on the reusable cleanable filters that's not for milage just convienance I can see my filter when I pop the hood and know if it's dirty without opening a box. I will drive this explorer till the wheels fall off, put em back on and drive some more, I've grown well beyond the "gotta have new" phase only reason I sold my Tracker (I had over 5 years) was seating new baby and my wife rode in back until she was 2. As for the dude sayin I should get a Tornado Y would I get something that won't work! I explained I want the K&N for concienance I know they don't boost milage much a few MPG but the engine sound is nice.
And yall sayin get a car????? If you really want gas milage only my Yamaha 650 got 50+ MPG but not very Passanger friendly reason I don't have it no more is I totaled it, but I'd be all for a new bike if I could afford one lol

 

[mounty71]

As for the dude sayin I should get a Tornado Y would I get something that won't work! I explained I want the K&N for concienance I know they don't boost milage much a few MPG but the engine sound is nice.

Apparently the sarcasm wasn't obvious enough. No way in this universe of reality did your K&N get you 3-5 mpg improvement.

 

[OffTrac]

Well it is possible for you to get better gas mileage but it will be costly. The jokers that say way don't you get a car that has better MPG's are missing the point.

Please tell me what the point is because I'm obviously missing it. Spend a lot of money to get yourself to let off the skinny pedal so you're convinced you haven't wasted money? That's money that could have been spent on top tier gasoline and still achieved the same results by changing driving habits. That's not just my opinion, it's math.

 

[Cranmaro99]

Nevermind, you should definitely get a Tornado.

Hahahaha

 

[FIND]

As for the dude sayin I should get a Tornado Y would I get something that won't work! I explained I want the K&N for concienance I know they don't boost milage much a few MPG but the engine sound is nice.

It was sarcasm... I thought some of the most obvious sarcasm I could make on text...

A cold air intake will not give you better fuel economy, especially not 3-5 mpg. You would be DAMN lucky on ANY car to see a boost of .25 mpg. If you see more than that, it is because your old filter was clogged.

 

[Gealii]

It was sarcasm... I thought some of the most obvious sarcasm I could make on text...

A cold air intake will not give you better fuel economy, especially not 3-5 mpg. You would be DAMN lucky on ANY car to see a boost of .25 mpg. If you see more than that, it is because your old filter was clogged.

you will see gains out of CAI if the stock intake is very restrictive im not talking exs im talking bout any car. Typically for better FE you want a warm air intake, it decreases power but increases FE.

 

[LUVITLO]

Apparently the sarcasm wasn't obvious enough. No way in this universe of reality did your K&N get you 3-5 mpg improvement.

Maybe I shift better when I can hear the engine this Explorer is the first stick I had that has a tac and I never checked my van b4 i slapped on a cold air I had it on 2 days after I bought that van with a auto but my tracker did better after I installed the cold air proof was in not having to stop for gas on the way home from my Jackson trips but the open filter made it sound so good, never heard it run b4 the new intake was added.

 

[LUVITLO]

It was sarcasm... I thought some of the most obvious sarcasm I could make on text...

A cold air intake will not give you better fuel economy, especially not 3-5 mpg. You would be DAMN lucky on ANY car to see a boost of .25 mpg. If you see more than that, it is because your old filter was clogged.

So Mr Physicist is your last name Cooper first name Sheldon?????? BAZINGA

 

[colintrax]

^Find is pretty smart.
And it's proven you won't get 3~5mpg better with a K&N. You'll already get some laughs just for asking this question. So honestly, you're best bet is to just quit replying. Instead use that time to learn how your engine works, and I mean everything. Don't forget the OBDII system

 

[LUVITLO]

Find sounds like my Uncle, I bought an 89 chevy 2500 ex cab long wheelbase with a 305 and 6 hole rims THATS right 6hole not 8 like most 3/4ton chevys and I got 21 city and 25 hyw he called me a liar too until my dad stepped in and told him he saw the title it was a 2500 and he drove it to Arkansas and it did get 25 mpg. Man I wish my x hadn't wrecked my Heavy Chevy I really miss that truck took nearly 60 gal to fill it up but I didn't visit a gas station every week either!
I know math I drove my Tracker for 5 years 2 bone stock then 3 lowered 1 3/8 inch ground clearence and a cold air installed no Box just the tubing and a K&N cone cold air filter and I took the exit ramps coming and going in Yazoo City at 90MPH more than once. Scared passangers and one cop to death drifting it turning out of a parking lot. I doubt u could of rolled my tracker if you wanted to and everyone sai I would roll it the first month!
Hope yall ain't mechanics cause if u r ur as stubborn as the one who changed the wrong coil pack on my mom's escape 3 times b4 my dad went n bought one and did his trial and error swappin them until it was fixed. Course I know mechanics who swear by K&N for performance and milage. Have yall ever accually used one?
Oh and have yall heard of a little computer called a Programmer, dealer Mechanic hooked one yo my dad's dodge cause it had something wrong with a few codes he had my dad drive and restart after a code was entered the dodge lost power (mechanic said it would be weaker but way better milage) then waay stronger ( mechanic said it would suck gas way worse) then back stock but he knew what was wrong after reading his computer in these modes and said he wasn't allowex to leave either the gas saver or higher hp mode engaged cause it would void dads warranty. So ur physics is shot to crap if a simple code in a computer can change milage where was the aerodynamic change or the head, piston, injector, gear, etc swap???? Just a simple code enter turn off and start and the truck wad totally different! I want those codes and that programmer!

 

[mounty71]

If you just think about it for 15 seconds, how would something as simple as an air filter, a piece of foam, actually improve mileage that much? Unless the stock filter is a solid block of wood and the K&N is made from the string of a tennis racket, you won't see an MPG gain that high. And if K&N's filter material was so incredible, don't you think every single auto manufacturer would be using it, rather than putting hundreds of millions of dollars into R&D trying to improve the MPG of their cars? I fell for the K&N filter many years ago, spent the $60 or whatever it was for a filter, and noticed nothing. Couple of years later got a MAC cold air intake for $200+, and still noticed nothing. Thinking about it now, I regret wasting all that money, but at the time I just believed the crap I read and didn't know enough to be able to back it up with my own understanding.

 

[OffTrac]

Stream of conscience writing is my favorite.

 

[FIND]

I know math

Oh yeah? I teach math... to college students.

Although, reading your posts, I'm glad you didn't claim to know English as well.

Hope yall ain't mechanics cause if u r ur as stubborn as the one who changed the wrong coil pack on my mom's escape 3 times b4 my dad went n bought one and did his trial and error swappin them until it was fixed.

As a matter of fact, I was a mechanic for more than 10 years. Next time, instead of using trial and error, go to autozone and have your codes read, then replace the coil on the cylinder that is misfiring or the cylinder that is throwing a code for the coil.

Course I know mechanics who swear by K&N for performance and milage. Have yall ever accually used one?

Why yes I have. I have also run several intake systems on flow benches and compared them to stock intakes, as well as running stock intakes on the flow bench with "performance" air filters to compare them with paper air filters and no air filter at all.

Oh and have yall heard of a little computer called a Programmer, dealer Mechanic hooked one yo my dad's dodge cause it had something wrong with a few codes he had my dad drive and restart after a code was entered the dodge lost power (mechanic said it would be weaker but way better milage) then waay stronger ( mechanic said it would suck gas way worse) then back stock but he knew what was wrong after reading his computer in these modes and said he wasn't allowex to leave either the gas saver or higher hp mode engaged cause it would void dads warranty. So ur physics is shot to crap if a simple code in a computer can change milage where was the aerodynamic change or the head, piston, injector, gear, etc swap???? Just a simple code enter turn off and start and the truck wad totally different! I want those codes and that programmer!

I'm not going to get into the details of how tuning and all that works on stock engines, because it would be very long, and you aren't in the mood to listen to anyone who can teach you anything anyway. Let's just say you should go spend a few hours on google and learn a little about what you are talking about before you try and argue it with people who have been fixing cars since before you were born.

But I guarantee you that MY physics isn't shot to crap by adjusting spark timing or fuel tables. Also, a tune, if done correctly, won't void your dad's warranty. Pro-tip: A lot of dealers also sell tuners and such, especially for diesel vehicles, and they still warranty the vehicles that are tuned with this hardware.

 

[LUVITLO]

Oh Find the Mechanic read the code told my dad it was #3 coil but where he(the mechanic) claimed #3 was was not the bad coil so either my mom's Escape's engine is in backward or that Mechanic done got too old for new tech lol sad thing is it was an 01. He was nice and only charged for parts no labor but that prob b/c his wife and my mom are good friends!
And Find ur on the friggin net with a genration of speed texters so um no I left English back in school Professor/Ace Mechanic sry if u can't read this but the habbit of txtn on my phone and using mobile apps for forums leaves me stuk in txt mode lol. Currious did u get ur teachin degree as a back up???? Mechanics make waaaay more than any teacher I know so Y u quit an go yo teachin?
And u ran an engine with no filter???? Oh yeah ur smart!!! The Dodge 360,s air filter box buckles right over the intake or throttle body whatever u call that part I'm no mechanic just know how to some basics to keep outta the gougers shops as much as possible, anyway he ran it a day with it not on right and dirt got in the cylinders and really did some damage we found 2 years later when my dad asked me if I wanted to help him rebuild an engine cause he was needing to swap motors again B4 u talk smack bout my dad his truck has 529,000 miles on it works all day never shuts off until he gets home so yeah he goes threw parts. Pulled a Gradeall Loader with it once equivalant to a 18wheeler with a small reefer hooked up tranny went out 4 months later but the dodge lugged it 15 miles to his work shop.

 

[OffTrac]

I took the exit ramps coming and going in Yazoo City at 90MPH more than once.

Everything I need to know about this child. Along with being the "speed texting generation" and obviously knowing so little about college that he thinks mechanics make more than PhDs.

Does your daddy know about your absolutely reckless and stupid driving habits? You're not going to impress anyone on here by admitting that you purposely put people's lives in danger for your own sh**** and giggles.

 

[Joe Dirt]