Bitten by the (SAS) bug!

[james t]

[whisperinear]get a 5x5.5 D44 and you will never buy wheelbearings or balljoints ever again with 33's[/whisperinear]

Really dude... dont gripe about getting new wheels when you're talking coilovers. : Just get a waggy/EB 44, go leaves and be done with it. A good set of well engineered junkard leaves and some Bilstien 5150's and that thing will ride like a caddy and flex more than you could ever use. And it would leave you some budget $$$ for other parts. Apples and oranges, but sureshots old Heep YJ had waggy leaves and 36 Iroks and it rode better on the street than my wifes mustang.

 

[james t]

To add-

I got a bike and i tour AR alot. Get all your stuff, give me a few weeks notice, and ill come up there one weekend and help you with it if you've got a spot on the floor i can sleep.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I'd rather run coils before I ran leaf springs- I wanted coilovers so it would ride nice and look cool to boot. I can get some used C/O's, rebuild them and not be too deep into them. I guess I've never been in anything with leaf springs on the front that rode like I'd want.

My concern is the knuckles, gears, locker, axleshafs, brakes, ujoints, tie rods, steering box that would have to go into a D44- that can all add up quickly.

The thing with wheels isn't the cost, it's the looks- I really like how my wheels look now, I'd have to find some good looking steelies and get someone to powder coat them.

 

[Turdle]

And that would mean--more of this is needed

 

[MountaineerGreen]

Most definitely need one of those.

Ugh..... I don't know what do about all this- I'll have to mull it over some more.

Super super stock or SAS????????????

 

[james t]

My concern is the knuckles, gears, locker, axleshafs, brakes, ujoints, tie rods, steering box that would have to go into a D44- that can all add up quickly.

Drum brake EB 44-

Axle- $200 (not close to worth that much, but lets say AT THE MOST)

Wheel bearings- $40

Balljoints- $100

Disc brake stuff- $100 (junkyard stuff)

...and you're done. The stock shafts with new ujoints and tack-welded caps will be undestructable with 33's. Promise. Even though they are the crappy 260 series.

For knuckles, keep the stock drum EB knuckles- the arms are up really high and once you ream them for 1ton GM TRE's they are "almost" high steer. I have a reamer. Hell, if you need it, ill ship it to you and you can ship it back when you're done.

Add up everything ive just posted, then price ONE unit bearing from a D30/rubicon D44.

 

[Turdle]

Wagoneer axle here in Humboldt for 60 bux-

Man this is fun--

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I guess I need to buy that one

Wish I had of known a month ago....sigh....

 

[Turdle]

I guess I need to buy that one

Wish I had of known a month ago....sigh....

His shop is one of the places I wanted to drag you to-but, things got a little down to the wire, so we missed a few things.
like you burning rubber in my truck, and the river trails-

dangit-

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I should have planned a few more days. But, if things has gone as planned, we would have had more time.

Jamest, any chances of finding a waggy axle with 4.10's in it? That'd seal the deal for me.

 

[lifeguard379]

have you tryed this site?
http://car-part.com/

 

[james t]

Jamest, any chances of finding a waggy axle with 4.10's in it? That'd seal the deal for me.

Ive been keeping my eyes open.

 

[techieman33]

You could keep 2 of your wheels maybe? The f-150's had the same wheels or pretty close to it
http://www.lmctruck.com/ICATALOG/FE/full.aspx?Page=124

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I hadn't thought about that Eric, I can get some wheel adapters and run F150 wheels all the way around. I don't want to run different wheels, I'd still like to be able to rotate my tires. Fortunately, the older F150 wheels appear to be pretty cheap these days. But, the newer trucks use 6 lug wheels, if the pattern was the same, that may work on a waggy axle??

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

Just found this thread Evan... lots of good debate in here. Whenever I've played that "If I ever go to an SAS game," I've wanted to do it low-lift as well, I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with.

I love the idea of the rubicon D44, despite its negatives it's my 1st choice for an axle.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes the low lift SAS idea.

I've spotted a few Wagoners sitting around- the inquiry into them will start soon.

I went out and did a little offroading today and took some pictures, I'll post them tonight or tomorrow.

I measured the front full compression to full extension today also- 6" of travel at best as it sits now.

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

A low lift keeps your COG down and keeps Johnny Law happy if you still want an inspection sticker. It'll also be a cool engineering and fab challenge to make it work just right. The sleeper effect is a big plus too.

Our V8's have that great notched oil pan, which may give you some clearance for the pumpkin if you can get it in the identical spot as the IFS pumpkin on uptravel...

 

[MountaineerGreen]

Pictures from today-

http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221310

I need C/O's or SAS for more flex.

 

[james t]

A low lift keeps your COG down and keeps Johnny Law happy if you still want an inspection sticker.

He's in AR... no inspection or anything else. If it has insurance on it and can move under its own power its "street legal" here. :

 

[V8BoatBuilder]

He's in AR... no inspection or anything else. If it has insurance on it and can move under its own power its "street legal" here. :

Shh...... he needs to be my low CoG (inspection proof) V8 SAS guinea pig!