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crazy starting problem - need help!!!

tiger23

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Overland Park Kansas
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'97 Sport
Hello! Any ideas welcome - my '97 sport, for the past few days, has been bi-polar. it will chug an chug and not start. or it will start fine. or it won't even chug and just do nothing. something electrical, i suppose. but what? we towed it to the dealer, but they always get it to start fine and haven't been able to reproduce the problem. help?
 






I would start with battery cables, the - to be specific.

Most common phrase heard at the stealership:
"We could not duplicate the problem" followed by a bill for the standard shop fee of $99 just to look at it :)

if they got under there and looked they might actually find something, but they wont evne look because basically they dont believe you have a problem if they dont see it.

Start with the basics, check voltage at the battery, check voltage at the battery when running. Check voltage at the starter solenoid, check voltage at the starter solenoid when the key is turned to "start"

First suspect for a slow start condition, especially when intermittant is the battery ground cable(s).

the Ford starter gets its - power through the drivetrain, so if the cable going from the battery to the frame and drivetrain is bad = no power for the starter.
common on these trucks.

Now there are many other things to check too, but this is a good place to start.
Also a search on this forum might get you thinking, this happens alot.

My most recent weak starter condition turned out to be another bad optima red top battery, I have owned 10 or so and had 3 of them completely fail on me to date (one cell dead = 11.4 v putput fully charged) I no longer will buy Optima's, which is a shame because the good ones last forever. $67 for a Duralast gold (consumer reports rated this battery best) and I am done.
 






we tested the battery at sears to check that before we took it to the shop (my mistake, not the dealer - typing to quick) and he looked at the cables when he tested the battery. does this rule it out?
 






no, looking at cables means they look clean, but the corrosion happens inside and also the cables leave the battery and go to the frame and engine, they should be checked down there too...

I wasnt there so I dont know. Usually sears has a top notch service dept.

A volt meter can rule out ALOT of things.
If you have over 12v at the battery before starting, chances are battery is fine.
If you get that same 12v at the constant power wire at the starter chances are the wiring from battery to starter are fine.

If you get under 12V at the starter solenoid on the inner fender when the key is turned to START for example this would point more towards a ignition switch (there is a relay in your steering column, they do go bad, mine lasted 275K miles)
 






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