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If the resonator is such an imperative part of said system, then why isn't it on every car?

And how many cars made post 1974 will ever become classics, realistically? None, cause nobody wants those pieces of **** that are hammered with emissions components, have crap for power, and are quiet unless there is a football sized hole in the muffler. Think before you speak. People want the classics because they were big blocks, loud as hell, and fast as ****. Can't you see it now, the year 2040, and you buying a 1992 Explorer Eddie B for $67,000? It'll be a true classic:rolleyes: :thumbsup:
 



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Only the ones where ignorance lays......

Well, in that case, it would be, 'where ignorance lies...' and where is the ignorance here? I saw a pretty intelligent, relevant conversation until you started spouting off and attacking people for having opinions that differ from yours.

If the resonator is such an imperative part of said system, then why isn't it on every car?
Because every exhaust system on every car is DIFFERENT. Therefore, not every exhaust system on every car uses dual inlets and single outlets. Some use SISO, some use DIDO, some use SIDO, some use DISO, some use two separate cans all together. Every vehicle has its unique characteristics, and exhaust systems are no exception. That's why the OEMs work so hard to optimize a system for a particular vehicle. The same exhaust that works great on an OHV engine may not work (by a number of different criteria) on a SOHC motor. An exhaust that works well in a 4-door may drone like he11 in a 2-door, or vice-versa. The OEMs spend countless hours testing and tuning the SYSTEM, not just one piece of one pipe. But I digress....

For the record, I never said it was an imperative part of every exhaust system out there. I simply stated that the general consensus on this board was that for the 4.0 SOHC in a second-gen Explorer, the conclusion I've drawn from my personal experience and that of others on this board is that the Flow 50 SUV muffler tends to drone if used without a resonator, and doesn't tend to drone when used with a resonator. I've found a unique set of circumstances where I've made an observation that seems to ring true in most cases. What's wrong with that?

And how many cars made post 1974 will ever become classics, realistically? None, cause nobody wants those pieces of **** that are hammered with emissions components, have crap for power, and are quiet unless there is a football sized hole in the muffler.

Incorrect. YOU don't want them for whatever reason. YOU don't have to. However, not everyone shares your opinion. We're all entitled to our opinions, but we're not wrong just because our opinion isn't the same as yours.

People want the classics because they were big blocks, loud as hell, and fast as ****. Can't you see it now, the year 2040, and you buying a 1992 Explorer Eddie B for $67,000? It'll be a true classic:rolleyes: :thumbsup:

Boy, funny how an old MG, or Austin-Healey, or even a Pinto, which was never a big-block and never loud as hell and never made a whole lot of power is such a collector's item, huh? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, some day, that 84 escort rotting in the back yard will be a museum piece. (In fact, it's in the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, along with a Mustang-II among others) Nobody could predict that the Edsel, one of Ford's most notable flops by all accounts, would be a collector's item. How many early-80s Mustangs do you see at Mustang shows? How many model-T's or model A's did Ford make??? Hardly loud big-blocks by any stretch of the imagination, yet they fetch a fortune at auction.

Practice what you preach.

Umm, OK... whatever that means. Care to tell me what I'm preaching exactly??

Whew! Talk about being off-topic!
 






Yeah, My opinion is for an everyday driven car ( to funerals, reunions, weddings, and such) my truck is too loud. 50 series dual in out.


I would like it just a bit quieter.
 












So, back to the muffler thing, im just afraid that my car is going to be too loud with the 3" output. Would it sound alright if i used a 2.25" pipe for the output, and if so, would it hurt the performance alot?
 






2.25 is about as large as you want to go with the SOHC. Any larger than that and you start to lose a lot of low-end torque.

-Joe
 






is 2.25" the stock tailpipe size, and if it is will I be able to reuse all of my old pipes and save alot of money?
 












I run twin 50 series through 3 inch pipe and near 400FWHP, and at 80mph still converse quietly with my wife in the front seat.:salute:

I got to agree with this guy. I dont run that much power but I got an IMCO extreme single chamber muffler dumped and I converse with my friends just fine. I love the sound of my motor and wouldnt trade it for anything else. I got rid of my 50 because it sounded too raspy (dual 2.25" pipes, dual in/dual out muff) I also lost back pressure going duals and low end torque. You have to remember our truck like back pressure (SOHC)
 






hopefully i can help here, i am running the set up he is looking for: 4.0L SOHC with 50 series dual in with a single 3 inch pipe out, no resonator. It is a very deep tone and people always think that i have the v8. The key is the 3 inch piping out back because my buddy has the same set up but with 2.5 piping and it sounds measly at best
 






I had the SUV 50 series and the drone was horrible, even for me who like the sound of performance. This was raspy and ricey and cut through the air, eventually I had to have a resonator put on against my better judgement.

Some power loss but it got rid of the horrible drone. My configuration is the stock dual 2 1/4" inlet and single 2.5" outlet. Still not overly happy with the sound needs to be deeper.

I would consider going to the 3" pipe if I did not loose the low end torque, then again I have the 4.10's so it wouldn't hurt that much.

Please advise.
 






hopefully i can help here, i am running the set up he is looking for: 4.0L SOHC with 50 series dual in with a single 3 inch pipe out, no resonator. It is a very deep tone and people always think that i have the v8. The key is the 3 inch piping out back because my buddy has the same set up but with 2.5 piping and it sounds measly at best

I think I neglected to mention.... the extra length in the tailpipe on the 4-door seems to make up for the lack of a resonator. Most of us on here with the 50/SUV on a 4-door don't need the resonator. The 2-door drones without one. Not sure I ever really pointed out that difference in earlier posts.

-Joe
 






Laz,
I had the SAME EXACT muffler and switched for that exact reason. I went to a single in/single out 2.5" Imco Extreme muffler dumped and love it now

I had the SUV 50 series and the drone was horrible, even for me who like the sound of performance. This was raspy and ricey and cut through the air, eventually I had to have a resonator put on against my better judgement.

Some power loss but it got rid of the horrible drone. My configuration is the stock dual 2 1/4" inlet and single 2.5" outlet. Still not overly happy with the sound needs to be deeper.

I would consider going to the 3" pipe if I did not loose the low end torque, then again I have the 4.10's so it wouldn't hurt that much.

Please advise.
 






Ive got a '97 XLT 4 door with the SOHC, and i have dual in, single out.
 






Mine will not accept a single in so I have to run the dual in single out. It has two pipes coming down off the manifolds and no Y pipe.

I would kill for V8 rumble- I was told that the MAC single chambers sounded like a V8 when strapped to a V6 sohc.
 






Mine will not accept a single in so I have to run the dual in single out. It has two pipes coming down off the manifolds and no Y pipe.

I would kill for V8 rumble- I was told that the MAC single chambers sounded like a V8 when strapped to a V6 sohc.

A good muffler shop can make the peie.
 






If you wanted a SISO, you could weld a y pipe to the two pipes to make them one before the muffler. I have a DISO muffler and i want to run glass packs, im not sure if i want to run one glass pack or two parallel ones and join them together after.. what do you guys will think sounds the nicest and no power loss?
 






I think I neglected to mention.... the extra length in the tailpipe on the 4-door seems to make up for the lack of a resonator. Most of us on here with the 50/SUV on a 4-door don't need the resonator. The 2-door drones without one. Not sure I ever really pointed out that difference in earlier posts.

-Joe

Agreeing here. I just installed a 70 series catback with 2.5" pipes on my 2 door ohv and it's droning pretty strongly on the highway. Guess I'll try the resonator.

Not trying to hijack...Are there exhaust tips that could act as a resonator? Just wary about having to spend more installing it.

Thanks.
 






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