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Just curious, would anyone here buy the new Explorers?

I think I read somewhere that the Explorer is going to be changing drastically in the next couple of years. I'm wondering if it's going back over to a Ranger platform?

It makes sense with Ford ditching on the cars in it's line-up. No sense keeping the Explorer on the Taurus floor-pan if that's going away, especially the way they like platform sharing.
 



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There's nothing wrong with OHC motors, it's my opinion that the 2V Tritons were some of the best motors Ford ever produced, I absolutely love them, they have their quirks but they're flat out great, and given a chance I'd have a 01+ without hesitation. Now as for 3V Fords, a relative had a 3V V10 at one point, he had the truck a year. First year, original motor broke cylinder 2 valve spring, mechanic didn't know anything so used engine went in. Fast forward a year, fuel injectors have a little spray pattern cap on the bottom, which came off. Said relative now hates Fords and refuses to buy Fords. Ford OHC motors are hit and miss, I've had two 4.0 SOHC Exploders, my Eddie Bauer was a mechanical disaster on wheels, it went to pieces, my other one though I sold and it was a flat out AWESOME vehicle, just looked bad, guy is still driving it, I saw it yesterday.

Although it's my viewpoint any new vehicle is a waste of money, I'm 19 and love shiny things and cars in general but I doubt anything out a new GM pickup or Mustang would even interest me, and even so the cost to benefit ratio isn't there. I gave $200 for my 2000 Explorer 5.0, been in it over a year now, and it's been a cheap dependable vehicle, all one can ask for. I don't get the appeal of dropping $40K on a high end family vehicle, I don't.
 






When I bought my 98 new one of the reasons that I went with it instead of the grand Cherokee was that back in 98 the explorer had a truck frame and the grand Cherokee was unibody construction. So basically a truck versus a Car.

Now flash to 2018 and the current explorers have been changed to also a glorified car. After owning both a brand new 94 and then 98 I just don't see me buying another explorer. Anyone else have any thoughts.
you are in Chicago? Thinking snow? Deep snow? The gen 5 is sorely limited in its ability to plow thru deep snow. It gets stuck very easy. High centers and the wheels just spin. This was a tough winter last year and twice it snowed about a foot. These are brand new tires. No matter. They do not touch the ground. I was shocked, & stuck. Just a consideration.
 






One thing that surprised me is how small my 98 is next to an 18. We've got several at work (unmarked Pursuit kit) and today was the first I've parked by one of them.
 






I drove a 2015 last year just to give an input, and I have to admit the Limited with the 3.5 is a NICE ride to drive, it feels small, like I honestly forgot I wasn't in an actual car. It's amazing how small new stuff actually feels.
 








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Although it's my viewpoint any new vehicle is a waste of money, I'm 19 and love shiny things and cars in general but I doubt anything out a new GM pickup or Mustang would even interest me, and even so the cost to benefit ratio isn't there. I gave $200 for my 2000 Explorer 5.0, been in it over a year now, and it's been a cheap dependable vehicle, all one can ask for. I don't get the appeal of dropping $40K on a high end family vehicle, I don't.

Me neither, personally. But there are many people out there who are barely capable of holding a wrench right.
And on most modern cars, if you just buy all the OEM parts for the complete vehicle and assemble them yourself you'd end up paying over 3 times as much as buying the car with the price as listed.
Of course that is a total ripoff by the manufacturers, but for many brands repairing older cars is anything but cheap because of the overly expensive parts and the cost for labor when having it done by a shop.

I seriously have a friend who studied mechanical engineering and would not touch his own old 2nd generation VW Golf / "rabbit".
He'd have all the regular inspections done by the official VW dealer every year plus all the little repairs. And then one day he saw this advertisement of a brand new 5th generation Golf there at the dealer.
- And guess what, he seriously calculated that with all the money he spends every year, plus the reduced monthly German auto tax on a brand the new vehicle, and the full warranty and thus no repair cost he would end up paying just as much and hardly any more for driving a brand new vehicle.
So that's what he did and he seriously financed himself this brand new car.
Well a week later his windshield got cracked and the deductible from his insurance was 500 €, so about $550 US dollars.
So he had to pay that and then three weeks after that some a.... (or ex gf?) scratched up the entire side of his new car from front to back. And bad luck, he now couldn't afford the $550 deductible for that anymore, so he left it like it was instead of having the insurance repaint the entire side of the car. And so he lost a fat bunch of resale value on his brand new car and kept being upset every time he'd get in and look at that nasty scratch.

I on the other hand parked my explorer downtown a year ago and some a...hole scratched the entire side up as well. luckily not as nearly as bad as my friends new Golf got scratched up back then, but well.
Now on my 9 year old Explorer with all the little cracks in the paint and the (cheap yet still very accurately done) sprayed paint hood, I really couldn't care less about that scratch. I totally don't give the slightest bit of a f.. about that scratch. If it was a beautiful shiny brand new car I naturally would also be upset and annoyed of course.
But on a 19 year old "wannabe off-road" vehicle that's regularly kept a little dusty and dirty on the outside anyways... why would that scratch bother me? I could probably just polish it out If I really wanted to anyways. And when I have to get to fixing the spot on the roof of the truck I might go ahead and fix that scratch up as well. And no matter how cheap I fix it up - or not, it certainly doesn't reduce the resale value of the vehicle either.

Also many people believe old cars just can't ever be reliable and new ones automatically always are. I just slammed over 4000 miles onto my explorer driving half way across the US and back. It now has just over 190k miles on it. My friends were seriously worried it would undeniably have to break down somewhere along the way and I had to let them know everything was fine regularly. All that really happened on that 4000 mile trip was a bolt on the rear window (where the glass mounts to the hatch) coming loose - that's it!

If I had done that full 4000 mile trip in a brand new car of the factory line I would likely have had a check engine light come on for nothing, the park assistant beep continuously, the heating in the seat not turning off or whatever other funny gadget go nuts.

Not that I don't like new cars, I really love some of them, but the common assumptions and prejudices people tend to have about old and new cars are not always backed by actual probabilities, statistics and facts - or as we they're commonly called these days: "the fake news".
 






I've owned 8 Explorers ( actually 5 currently but 2 are parts trucks:dunno:) most have been 1st and 2nd gen. But my wife's last two cars have been Explorers. A '06 (4th gen) which we bought a few years old and she now has a '16 which we bought brand new.

My needs are different then hers. I want something I can go anywhere in, and she wants a comfortable ride, that can do all her mommy needs. It works for and for us as a family car. I would never buy one for my commute and everything else, as I'd like something a little more adventurous. But currently I'm in a go faster commuter, and have my tow rig and early explorers for play toys.

There is no doubt the Explorer has changed with times, but like many of us, it just grew up.
 






Although it's my viewpoint any new vehicle is a waste of money, I'm 19 and love shiny things and cars in general but I doubt anything out a new GM pickup or Mustang would even interest me, and even so the cost to benefit ratio isn't there. I gave $200 for my 2000 Explorer 5.0, been in it over a year now, and it's been a cheap dependable vehicle, all one can ask for. I don't get the appeal of dropping $40K on a high end family vehicle, I don't.


A new vehicle is a waste of money if you keep it for a couple of years and then trade it in. But if you buy new and keep the car, then you know the complete history of the car from the day it drove off the lot and are not buying someone else's problem car.

I've had the 98 since it was brand new. When I had to drive coast to coast multiple times, due to being transferred in the Navy, I never had to worry about anything going wrong from something being neglected by a previous owner. I've got maintenance records for everything that I've ever done to it. With it now 20 years old it probably would still make it across country, but I bring my tools just in case, and I rather drive my 40 MPG Diesel VW.
 












It would depend if I was comfortable in it. From what I've read I think it might be too cramped for me. Also it would have to be a used one under $5k. So the term "new" would mean new to me. Besides, there's a pretty good chance my '01 EB may be the last vehicle I ever buy for myself and I'm perfectly happy with it.
 






When I bought my 98 new one of the reasons that I went with it instead of the grand Cherokee was that back in 98 the explorer had a truck frame and the grand Cherokee was unibody construction. So basically a truck versus a Car.

Now flash to 2018 and the current explorers have been changed to also a glorified car. After owning both a brand new 94 and then 98 I just don't see me buying another explorer. Anyone else have any thoughts.
Check out the 2020 cop car explorer! It’s available in rear wheel drive
 






There is no doubt the Explorer has changed with times, but like many of us, it just grew up.
Clearly not speaking for me.

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While I love the 5.0, it is an antiquated design. It’s lackluster on power and torque compared to more modern designs. There’s nothing wrong with OHC motors. Every other manufacturer uses them without issue. They are more efficient, make more power, and don’t have to be inherently unreliable.
"in my opinion" the OHC have and extra chain/belt and these are not without issue. I am "just sayin".
 






"in my opinion" the OHC have and extra chain/belt and these are not without issue. I am "just sayin".
The majority of timing chain systems are fairly stout. At some point advancements in technology are unavoidable. They almost always pay off, as the way fuel injection, computer drivetrain management and antilock brakes have.
 


















I had a '94 and still have a '99 V8 that i bought new.

My current daily is a 4Runner V8.

i don't know what I'd get today if I was buying new. It wouldn't be an Explorer.
 






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