Manual Hubs

[atistang]

If i go with warns, how much are they and what adapters do i need?

post links if you got them

Also

has anyone used aisin hubs from a toyota? I know from personal experience they are good hubs and i can get them cheap.

thanks

 

[Willard]

Here ya go:

http://www.4wheelparts.com/PDT57559.aspx

There is the warn standard hubs, there are also warn premium hubs and many other brands on that site. It says which adapter kit to get, they also sell that. There are plenty of other places to get them, just search around some.

 

[atistang]

thanks, anyone know about the aisin hubs?

 

[BillyBob82]

I have the standard hubs on my ex. I like em, they are way stronger than the hubs on my toyota. Definately a good investment. Dont know much about the aisin hubs though...

 

[atistang]

i'm not 100% sure my hubs aren't working, i can hear the transfer case change, but when i was out in the field i nailed the gas and only the rears spun in 4x4. I'm bringing it home tonight and my driveway just happens to be a sheet of ice, so when i get back i'll make sure if they work or not

 

[XtremeExplorer]

i have Warn manuals on my Explorer, and i love em'. I work at Napa Auto parts so i got discount on them, i picked them up for about 174, but that's 10 percent off so.

 

[XtremeExplorer]

i'm not 100% sure my hubs aren't working, i can hear the transfer case change, but when i was out in the field i nailed the gas and only the rears spun in 4x4. I'm bringing it home tonight and my driveway just happens to be a sheet of ice, so when i get back i'll make sure if they work or not

do you automatic hubs on it right now, because if so, i had auto's on mine and i took them off because the part that holds the gears in is just plastic and they snapped off. Go with manuals, you'll save yourself a lot of hassel

 

[atistang]

do you automatic hubs on it right now, because if so, i had auto's on mine and i took them off because the part that holds the gears in is just plastic and they snapped off. Go with manuals, you'll save yourself a lot of hassel

i plan to, i pulled in last nice, put it in 4x4 hammered down in the ice and not a front wheel even tried to spin lol

 

[loneviking]

do you automatic hubs on it right now, because if so, i had auto's on mine and i took them off because the part that holds the gears in is just plastic and they snapped off. Go with manuals, you'll save yourself a lot of hassel

O.K., stupid question time. I'm not used to the workings of these 'push button' 4x4 systems. If I swap to manual hubs, I would still have to push the inside button to make the actuator motor work--right? If not, how do you engage the front axle?

 

[unclemeat]

With manual hubs, you must get out and lock hubs, then you can push the 4x4 button, to engage the transfer case. You can keep the hubs locked, for example on a weekend camping trip and you are in and out of 4x4, then only the 4x4 buton is required to engage 4x4. You will need to keep the hubs properly greased.

Remember, locking the hubs will engage the front axke and driveshaft. All that stuff spinning will take away gas milage and overall engine performance, so keeping the hubs unlocked is generally a good idea.

 

[loneviking]

With manual hubs, you must get out and lock hubs, then you can push the 4x4 button, to engage the transfer case. You can keep the hubs locked, for example on a weekend camping trip and you are in and out of 4x4, then only the 4x4 buton is required to engage 4x4. You will need to keep the hubs properly greased.

Remember, locking the hubs will engage the front axke and driveshaft. All that stuff spinning will take away gas milage and overall engine performance, so keeping the hubs unlocked is generally a good idea.

Hmmm, manual hubs don't sound like such a good idea. I don't seem to have any problems with the hubs, I just can't get the darn thing to go into 4wd. I've read over the tech. articles about the problems with the actuator motor and the circuit board in the back. One of these is likely the problem. I was just hoping that maybe, with manual hubs, I wouldn't have problems getting the truck into 4wd. Thanks for the reply!

 

[JDraper]

Hmmm, manual hubs don't sound like such a good idea. I don't seem to have any problems with the hubs, I just can't get the darn thing to go into 4wd. I've read over the tech. articles about the problems with the actuator motor and the circuit board in the back. One of these is likely the problem. I was just hoping that maybe, with manual hubs, I wouldn't have problems getting the truck into 4wd. Thanks for the reply!

Are you getting the lights on the dash when you push the button? If you are, then I'd start by looking at the hubs. If not, then you probably are correct and it's the TC motor.

 

[loneviking]

Are you getting the lights on the dash when you push the button? If you are, then I'd start by looking at the hubs. If not, then you probably are correct and it's the TC motor.

No, no lights. With manual hubs, when they are locked, is it like having front wheel drive?

 

[DeRocha]

No, no lights. With manual hubs, when they are locked, is it like having front wheel drive?

Yes.. When the front hubs are locked (manual or automatic) the front end will feel heavier.. As mentioned by Unclemeat you are feeling the front drive shafts being rotated by the wheels.

 

[DeRocha]

Hmmm, manual hubs don't sound like such a good idea. I don't seem to have any problems with the hubs, I just can't get the darn thing to go into 4wd. I've read over the tech. articles about the problems with the actuator motor and the circuit board in the back. One of these is likely the problem. I was just hoping that maybe, with manual hubs, I wouldn't have problems getting the truck into 4wd. Thanks for the reply!

Have you taking a peek at the troubleshooting 4x4 problem guide? The hubs only come into play after 4x4 has been successfully activated.

 

[loneviking]

Have you taking a peek at the troubleshooting 4x4 problem guide? The hubs only come into play after 4x4 has been successfully activated.

Thanks for the link. The pictures really show the guts of that motor well. The other link to this problem really does a good job addressing the wiring, including how to get that troublesome brown wire off. That link is:

http://www.explorerforum.com/Singleton/web/pages/tcase.html

Guess what I'm doing the day after Christmas?

 

[scottmi]

worn out warn hubs?

back when ford/firestone bought me some new tires for my 1994 Ford Explorer XLT, i "upgraded" to a rancho 2.5" lift kit, and bigger tires. some time after that, my auto hubs quit, so replaced with WARN standard manual hubs and i am sure, new bearings. now, 8-10 or so years later, my front wheel bearings have gone bad, and my mechanic says the hubs are worn/rough (driver side worse) and should (NEED) to be replaced. ..

do these wear out so easily? why the bearings and hubs go in what seems to me, so soon? i really did not expect these to be an issue again for the remaining life of the vehicle. What expectation should i have for these? and any particular maintenance i should have been aware of?

note, about two years ago moved out to where i live about a mile up a (good condition) gravel road, truck gets VERY DIRTY every day.

 

[DeRocha]

I believe WARN hubs carry a lifetime warranty.. As for going it it all depends on how much they were used.. How often/hard you wheel. How big your tires are. How much water gets into them etc.. Because I wheel my rig , and it sees water I service my wheel bearings and hubs once a year.

 

[scottmi]

thanks. new bearings went in yesterday and new hubs arrive monday. once that's done i guess i have a new maintenance procedure to learn! gets very wet and dirty where i am, constantly, even if not 4-wheeling every day.

what's involved with your annual hub/bearing servicing?

 

[DeRocha]

thanks. new bearings went in yesterday and new hubs arrive monday. once that's done i guess i have a new maintenance procedure to learn! gets very wet and dirty where i am, constantly, even if not 4-wheeling every day.

what's involved with your annual hub/bearing servicing?

The bearings (wheel, spindle, hub) contain seals that are water resistant but not water proof (ie they protect against splashing water/rain, but can allow water to seep in if you drive through deep water that is equal to the height of the hubs.

Following the bearing maintenance in the Brake job diary. Lots of great info and pics.