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BenDT - Something is not getting through... You just told me "do a service on the case" when I told you in a previous post (Yesterday at 1:46 PM) the following... I bolded the parts you have told me to do since I posted that


Ben, AWD....I have tried in every position that the six bolts on one end and the u-Joint on the other will allow with no change. The Transfer case has been rebuilt with new bearings and chain - Stopped the clunk but made it easier to hear when the bolt backs out. At 22 Ft Pounds and red Loctite, these should stay. but they don't. I'm ready to take the 12 new bolts I just got from Ford and put them in my drill press to make holes for 0.32 safety wire and safety wire them in place
 



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You clearly said it “tilts”. Maybe if your such a smart guy you need to learn to write your little thoughts out better. Everything I said is spelled out very clearly.

Oh, and you wanna call me stupid, and a bunch of other names, and then try and be nice and call a truce in a PM?

Yeah, I don’t think so. I’ll tell you where exactly you can go, and what you can do to yourself when you get there.

Keep throwing parts at something you’re too stupid to fix. You MUST be a dealer mechanic.
Lol it is tilted to match rear pinion angle as the other guy pointed out as well
 






BenDT - Something is not getting through... You just told me "do a service on the case" when I told you in a previous post (Yesterday at 1:46 PM) the following... I bolded the parts you have told me to do since I posted that
No I get all that. I’m saying fluids. Clean anything you can sensor wise is what I’m saying. I’m not sure what the awd additive is for the viscous clutch but too much not enough ext can cause abnormal wear. So can metal from newer components. The bolts coming lose is probably a torque issue with the threads of the output shaft from t case. I assume that’s original. Could be deformed and or rusted out threads. Or bolt is being deformed in some way. Never had bolts back out like that. Seen caliper bolts due it but that’s typically a torquing issue.
 






You clearly said it “tilts”. Maybe if your such a smart guy you need to learn to write your little thoughts out better. Everything I said is spelled out very clearly.

Oh, and you wanna call me stupid, and a bunch of other names, and then try and be nice and call a truce in a PM?

Yeah, I don’t think so. I’ll tell you where exactly you can go, and what you can do to yourself when you get there.

Keep throwing parts at something you’re too stupid to fix. You MUST be a dealer mechanic.
Also yes I tried to call a truce and offered you a humility free way to see your wrong doings here. This ENTIRE issue is caused by your misunderstandings and lack of ability to see it. Sorry buddy. Happy trails then.
 






No I get all that. I’m saying fluids. Clean anything you can sensor wise is what I’m saying. I’m not sure what the awd additive is for the viscous clutch but too much not enough ext can cause abnormal wear. So can metal from newer components. The bolts coming lose is probably a torque issue with the threads of the output shaft from t case. I assume that’s original. Could be deformed and or rusted out threads. Or bolt is being deformed in some way. Never had bolts back out like that. Seen caliper bolts due it but that’s typically a torquing issue.
There is no viscous coupling “additive”. It’s a sealed unit. Nothing gets into the coupling.
 






Also yes I tried to call a truce and offered you a humility free way to see your wrong doings here. This ENTIRE issue is caused by your misunderstandings and lack of ability to see it. Sorry buddy. Happy trails then.
I said the transfer case doesn’t tilt. You said it did. It’s not my fault you’re garbage about getting your point across. A proper or thoughtful response would have went something like “of course it doesn’t tilt, it’s mounted at an angle”.

Offer me a humility free way AFTER repeatedly calling me names, and going on about things you couldn’t possibly know? What a guy. You’re clearly a gentleman and a scholar.
 






I said the transfer case doesn’t tilt. You said it did. It’s not my fault you’re garbage about getting your point across. A proper or thoughtful response would have went something like “of course it doesn’t tilt, it’s mounted at an angle”.

Offer me a humility free way AFTER repeatedly calling me names, and going on about things you couldn’t possibly know? What a guy. You’re clearly a gentleman and a scholar.
Lmao you are now arguing tilt as opposed to angle. You sir can stop. Seriously looking bad. You also said that angle has nothing to do with axle angle and that the trans is never in line blah blah bs. I’m done with you. Yes. You keep digging a hole in everything you argue. Go back. Reread. I cover my based. This has been recommended for you but you keep trucking along putting that foot right in your mouth. Never said anything about front axle movement. You made that argument all up. I said it was mounted tilted as to allow rear to align with trans and have less angle on driveline under load. A premise that has been in the automotive industry since the 30’s. Chevy has some very informative information you can find when they first invented modern suspension and differentials. It explains the basics if you need a tune up. I said in my message you have great knowledge and that you are blinded by your inability to get out of your own way. And for the purpose of this thread. Yes my driveline seems to be the source of my noise. The joint has been almost entirely silent since post about mud. I will definitely inspect the joint at some point and for the sake of seeing a thread end... I’ll post what seems to happen. Best of luck with the bolts that seem to back out.
 






I said “it doesnt tilt”. Tilt. As in it doesn’t complete the ACTION of tilting. You said it does. Learn to write.

Not gonna mention how you’re WRONG about the transfer case additive I see?
 






For the record these cases need nothing but Dextron 3 fluid.
 






No I get all that. I’m saying fluids. Clean anything you can sensor wise is what I’m saying. I’m not sure what the awd additive is for the viscous clutch but too much not enough ext can cause abnormal wear. So can metal from newer components. The bolts coming lose is probably a torque issue with the threads of the output shaft from t case. I assume that’s original. Could be deformed and or rusted out threads. Or bolt is being deformed in some way. Never had bolts back out like that. Seen caliper bolts due it but that’s typically a torquing issue.
I see that we are not talking the same language. When I "do a service on the case" I rebuild it or repair it. What I understand you mean is to check fluids. I have never heard of an "awd additive" Can you expand on what that is? Some transfer cases do have a "viscous clutch" but not the BW4404.

If you search the threads there are numerous posts about the driveshaft bolts coming loose,so it is not just me

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My case looked like this when I put it back in after rebuild, and other than the grease melting at the cup for the CV coupler it still is this clean
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For the record these cases need nothing but Dextron 3 fluid.
What came out looked like gear oil so that is what went back in when I rebuilt it. Almost 5,000 miles on it. I took the front driveshaft out last night and enjoyed the quiet. I also drilled holes in the bolt heads for safety wire. Will get a new driveshaft from my Ford dealer, adjust the transmission crossbeam all the way up, and safety wire the bolts and see.
 






What came out looked like gear oil so that is what went back in when I rebuilt it. Almost 5,000 miles on it. I took the front driveshaft out last night and enjoyed the quiet. I also drilled holes in the bolt heads for safety wire. Will get a new driveshaft from my Ford dealer, adjust the transmission crossbeam all the way up, and safety wire the bolts and see.
Factory fluid is Mercon (not v) the current fluid is Dextron III. You can also use the fluid made for some of the newer Gens, but it’s spendy. I’d definitely change it. I’m betting with a new shaft it won’t shake the bolts out.
 






No I get all that. I’m saying fluids. Clean anything you can sensor wise is what I’m saying. I’m not sure what the awd additive is for the viscous clutch but too much not enough ext can cause abnormal wear. So can metal from newer components. The bolts coming lose is probably a torque issue with the threads of the output shaft from t case. I assume that’s original. Could be deformed and or rusted out threads. Or bolt is being deformed in some way. Never had bolts back out like that. Seen caliper bolts due it but that’s typically a torquing issue.
Also, there’s zero sensors involved in the AWD.
 












What came out looked like gear oil so that is what went back in when I rebuilt it. Almost 5,000 miles on it. I took the front driveshaft out last night and enjoyed the quiet. I also drilled holes in the bolt heads for safety wire. Will get a new driveshaft from my Ford dealer, adjust the transmission crossbeam all the way up, and safety wire the bolts and see.
If you put in gear oil you may have messed up the clutch. The case does use a viscous clutch. Look it up. It’s also the main reason of failure. Did you change the coupler gear with rebuild. All awd cases have one. It’s what helps the front tires do the 5% less driving and not allow them to get eaten up. Most awd cases you either put in a slip additive or friction additive. Ford used the same clutch as earlier trans I suppose. This trans fluid is no friction and all detergent meaning to operate properly it needs to be clean. I’m sure even my boy brookes agrees with this. Or awd cars would crow hop everywhere they went.
I said “it doesnt tilt”. Tilt. As in it doesn’t complete the ACTION of tilting. You said it does. Learn to write.

Not gonna mention how you’re WRONG about the transfer case additive I see?
And ok no additive. I can name 10 cases that do for this one that doesn’t. Most awd cases use it. Much like the posi rears because fluid along doesn’t have proper friction modifiers. Never stated to know anything about “this” case at all. We’re a few ideas to check as the approach to remedy is similar for almost and brand or platform. However there is a viscous clutch gear. Maybe address that issue as well as possible places to look. As for English. Here are some synonyms of tilt. Tell me where you think tilt means an action word? SYNONYMS. slope, list, camber, gradient, bank, slant, incline, pitch, dip, cant, bevel, angle, heel. Something can easily be fixed and have a tilt. It does have to articulate at all. It can. And can be used to describe something that CAN be moved, but must be to an angle. But to tilt it must not be flat. Thus at an angle. Making my statement of it having a tilt 100% acceptable. Smfh
 






What came out looked like gear oil so that is what went back in when I rebuilt it. Almost 5,000 miles on it. I took the front driveshaft out last night and enjoyed the quiet. I also drilled holes in the bolt heads for safety wire. Will get a new driveshaft from my Ford dealer, adjust the transmission crossbeam all the way up, and safety wire the bolts and see.

I would suggest replacing the fluid as soon as you can, these older TC's need Mercon/Dexron III, as @Mbrooks429 pointed out. The newer TC's they began using the newer ATF like Mercon VII etc, and it took them a while to discover those ATF's are too slick and created big trouble for any transfer case. The Mercon(that's Mercon 1, there was no Mercon 2 to 4) is not licensed to be made now, but the old Dexron III is, and that still meets the requirements of Mercon.

So you can use the Dexron III, or any ATF made recently just for transfer cases. Ford made one first that was $25 a quart, then they made something different, so Ford had two TC fluids. Valvoline made one also back then, and I like Valvoline. It costs $7ish per quart, I got a case for $36 from Amazon two years ago.

BTW, the AWD has a viscous clutch in it, which is a sealed unit with its own fluid inside. When the viscous clutch is damaged from too much heat(mismatched tires), the seals of it will be damaged and the fluid will begin to leak, making the TC fluid very dark.

Be sure the front driveshaft seats well when it's put into the cup of the TC. Snug the six bolts quickly and evenly, double check it fits well, and then tighten them well. Best of luck,
 






I see that we are not talking the same language. When I "do a service on the case" I rebuild it or repair it. What I understand you mean is to check fluids. I have never heard of an "awd additive" Can you expand on what that is? Some transfer cases do have a "viscous clutch" but not the BW4404.

If you search the threads there are numerous posts about the driveshaft bolts coming loose,so it is not just me

*Edit**
My case looked like this when I put it back in after rebuild, and other than the grease melting at the cup for the CV coupler it still is this clean
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i did a search too on the bolts. Many stated low torque to be issue. I wonder if the bolts are not soft enough. I can’t remember if you stated you used factory bolts or off brand. New bolts come with thread lock from Ford. Only other thing as some said the loctite and or nothing worked. Maybe used the anti rattle gel Ford says to use on caliper bolts do they don’t back out. Maybe worth a shot. I never had an issue with distorting threads and would recommend that if nothing else works. Distorted threads make a huge difference in tight bolt applications. Fords exhaust studs are distorted to prevent backing out. With out the distortion the stud can back out causing exhaust leaks. Most bolts Ford does this with they don’t produce for older vehicles so you must make it yourself.
 






The six AWD driveshaft bolts are very long, they have to be threaded in a long way. I've never read on here about those backing out, this is the first I've heard of it. It takes a good long while to thread them in before they bottom out. I wonder most about dirty threads in either part, and that the parts were mated fully and centered before tightening them. I've R&R'd my front shafts easily 15 times between my four 2nd gen's.

It's tedious to put them in, it takes a while to get the ratchet moved to get on each bolt and apply some torque, and then move on to other bolts. Rushing it might end up having some not just right, or the whole thing ****ed slightly. Take it easy and do it methodically, they are not hard to do, just not fast and easy.
 









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The six AWD driveshaft bolts are very long, they have to be threaded in a long way. I've never read on here about those backing out, this is the first I've heard of it. It takes a good long while to thread them in before they bottom out. I wonder most about dirty threads in either part, and that the parts were mated fully and centered before tightening them. I've R&R'd my front shafts easily 15 times between my four 2nd gen's.

It's tedious to put them in, it takes a while to get the ratchet moved to get on each bolt and apply some torque, and then move on to other bolts. Rushing it might end up having some not just right, or the whole thing ****ed slightly. Take it easy and do it methodically, they are not hard to do, just not fast and easy.
Long extensions help as does a wobble extension at the socket. Learned this pulling transmissions. Using the long entensions, I could use a rachet on the top two bolts that otherwise you were on to with a box open wrench. I ensured it was on straight and threaded them in by hand till snug, then used the rachet till tight and switched to my beam torque wrench with an adapter from 1/2" to 3/8".
 






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