Welcome to the Forum Caygirl.Hi,
I would like to say a big THANK YOU to everyone for sharing their issue with their 2012 Explorer not starting after filling up. I too had this issue with my 2012 Explorer XLT for several months now, with same codes after engine light pops up.................................Thank you all for the information shared, greatly appreciated.
Always address ancillary codes before a p0430 cat con code.
Check your freeze frame data for clues. Check for misfires, no spark. The codes indicate a rich condition, not necessarily caused by injectors. Could be a/f sensor.
Your thread was moved to this one on the same issue.had A CEL come on today, pulled the codes:
P0430 x2, not sure why it showed it twice
P2196
P2198
All seem to link to catalytic converters failure, fuel injector issue, or exhaust leak.
Does anyone else have any input on the matter?
My wife's 2012 Ford Explorer got the codes P2196 and P2198 recently. They have since cleared, but wanted to know what I should check first. Any suggestions???
@Larry JordanMy wife’s 2013 Explorer XLT w/82K miles (3.5L V6) stalled at a fast-food drive-through and when restarted, set off an audible alarm together with the red “oil pressure” idiot light. Interestingly, the yellow “check engine” light did NOT appear.
I would have parked the car right then and there, and had it towed to the dealer. But, my wife drove it next door to a tire dealer (!) who apparently pulled the dipstick, saw that the oil level was normal, and told me wife that the car was “OK to drive.“ What a dope.
My wife drove the car 25 miles with the red “oil pressure” light illuminated. LUCKILY, apparently there really was adequate oil pressure. The dealer did more than two hours diagnostic work. They told me that the red “oil pressure” indicator light was “stuck” in the “on” position due to the following codes: P2196 and P2198. I find this very odd.
I’m not happy that the Ford dealer took two hours (at $160/hour) to locate the problem after reading the codes P2196 & P2198. That’s $320 just for the diagnosis. Then, an additional $178 in parts + labor to fix the issue. They tell me the car needs a new AU5Z9C915B Purge Valve Assembly (the OEM part that costs about $38 online).
They said that the Evaporation Purge Valve had become “restricted” and that it wasn’t obvious when they were doing diagnostics because in worked “intermittently.” In other words, it seemed to be doing its job until it didn’t do its job. There goes two hours labor at $160/hour.
I’m not a happy camper. My wife’s 2013 Explorer had a HOLE in the exhaust manifold that cost us $1000 to repair (ouch!) only 6 weeks ago. Now, this. Car is a pampered, garaged vehicle that we use on long highway trips. It is well-maintained. We use the Mobil-1 full-synthetic and the best WIX filters. There’s no excuse for these recent issues on an 82K mile 2013. What’s next?
That's what I've come to think. I'm working on an explorer with the 3.7 and I'm thinking its got to be an intermittent vacuum issue. I've addressed all of the other causes and that's all i can think would cause it. Ive also been told by ford that damage to the exhaust after the sensors can cause a problem. How I don't know, but that's something I've seen on other Explorers. And that's coming from Ford.@blanchard7684 "This could be as easy as finding a vacuum line loose"
Please explain to this old dummy how a vacuum leak, which means EXCESS air, can be interpreted as EXCESS fuel? imp
Welcome to the Forum.That's what I've come to think. I'm working on an explorer with the 3.7 and I'm thinking its got to be an intermittent vacuum issue. I've addressed all of the other causes and that's all i can think would cause it. Ive also been told by ford that damage to the exhaust after the sensors can cause a problem. How I don't know, but that's something I've seen on other Explorers. And that's coming from Ford.