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Hey! Still haven’t gotten around to fixing the timing (I will probably over spring break), are there any reasons to fix it or keep it as opposed to selling it? Are there any value benefits? I’m around the LA area now but by summer I will be back on the road again... trying to convince my parents it worth it lol... thanks!
 



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A little more information would be helpful like how many miles, any rust, what works and what doesn't. Most of these vehicles will go for a long time with very little problems. Mine is a '96 with over 204,000 miles, and other than rebuilding crankshaft and replacing a head, a new radiator and routine maintenance, it runs good. I also live in SoCal so A/C is a must!
 






I agree with the above post. A lot depends on condition. That being said, if its a V8 4x4 or AWD then do what you can to keep it. Theyre built like tanks and should last a looooooong time if well kept. The V6's, not so much. If its a money pit with a ton of repairs then may be time to cut it loose as theyre not worth that much. Especially if its got timing issues and doesnt present that well when you go to sell it.
 






@rasouth
mine is a xlt with 340k miles, a minor hatch misalignment, no rust... sohc 4x4, new rear end gears 8 months ago, other than that, its in pristine condition... oil changed 2 weeks ago
 






If you can do your own work, you have a good work space, good tools, and the body/undercarriage is in good shape and not rotting? I almost always vote fix.

My XLT had the following major things happen to it:
-Ate a torque converter and band at 140k (rebuilt trans)
-Ate a SOHC motor (timing chains) at 202k (replaced with late-model Ranger motor)
-Rear ended by a semi (rebuilt back of truck, replaced hatch)

Lots of people would've junked it 3x over, but the body has no rot, just about everything is in great mechanical condition, and I know the condition of every system in the vehicle intimately. I keep logs, so I know how many miles each part I've replaced has on it--makes pre-emptively replacing parts as part of preventative maintenance easy. Also gives me a good idea of what is likely to fail next, so I can keep an eye on it.

As a result, I've got a 302k mi trucklet that I wouldn't hesitate to drive cross country tomorrow. If I junked it and bought something else for $2500-3000, I'd be inheriting a big question mark of someone else's problems. In terms of peace of mind, I'd only feel comfortable in a new/pretty new (~3 year old) vehicle or something that I've gone through and 'restored' myself. That's why I like to buy older but low mileage vehicles on the cheap, and sink a bunch of money in parts into them. For $3000ish total investment, you've got a reliable Explorer with new suspension, steering, brakes, exhaust, etc.

Now if you have to work in a driveway in inclement weather, your tools suck, and you can't fix lunch? Drive it until the wheels fall off, then junk it and buy another for $500---and repeat.
 






@C420sailor
i agree, i love my explorer... no rust and in almost pristine condition as far as i can tell... got a 2 car garage and a cabinet full of tools... thanks!!
 






As much as I advocate keeping these running, with 340K on the SOHC engine, I can't recommend "fixing the timing".

It will probably end up costing more than it's worth, and to some it's worth the bother but that is the question, do you have more sentimental value for it to pay more than it's worth?

The flip side to that argument is that a new vehicle is very expensive and a used one is a whole new can of worms with its own repair issues, but at that mileage (with the SOHC bringing its own issues) you are looking at pulling the engine and rebuilding it, not just doing the timing chains to make it worth the bother.

340K is a good run for it so now you are into restoration territory, where anything goes, where it's not about value, rather what you want to pay or work for.

However I dispute the idea that it's in pristine condition. No matter the climate, rubber and plastic degrade, time has it's way. I suppose it depends on your needs for it, how reliable it is.
 






340K on a 98 its worth about $100 resale (crush weight) so why not keep it!!
Im glad I kept my BII all these years.....have not had a car payment since I was 20 (27 years now)
That frees up alot of $$$$ for modifications, more vehicles, toys, buying houses, etc
 






Slap in a mustang or ranger engine from a junk yard and be done with it

@J_C is right I spent tons of time and money replacing a good 80% of my rubber components
Now the plastic is a different story my truck was garage kept out of the sun so my plastic is still soft which makes me happy
 






That's what I did. Got a 2011 Ranger engine (back in 2015) with 36k on it for $1000. Swapped it in. IMO, fixing timing components on a high mileage engine is an incredible waste of money. A lightly used engine will be fresh AND have updated valvetrain components.
 






idk if i will go with a rebuilt, or just replace some timing components that dont require engine out... idk... maybe ill pull the engine... idk yet
 






I've been there
With your mileage I'd just swap in a different engine
 






agreed 1000% with these guys
SWAP ENGINES
there are many many many low mile late model SOHC engines available from reputable wreckers who only sell good running engines. These dudes will spend more time making sure the engine runs properly then they do pulling the truck apart and placing the parts for sale.
Trying to fix the timing in your current outdated worn out engine is throwing $$$ down a hole.
98 SOHC is problematic
the later years are NOT nearly as problematic
If you can get 340K from a 98 engine imagine whats possible with a later model with the factory updates (we see over 350K from the later SOHC all the time now)
 






@410Fortune

for its age and milage, it is near pristine... paint correction done 6 months ago... asthetically it is pristine, but the motor has a slight oil leak thru the pressure sensor but i replaced it.. thats it...
 






right but re sale is still $100-500 or so with those miles! I'm not trying to be a jerk its the truth.........
So why not keep it? It sounds awesome! I would be PROUD to run it keep it forever and see the 500,000 miles on the ODO at least!

I bought a certain BII from my dad for $500 about 27 years ago
I'm still driving it
I have learned enough to open a custom Ranger shop in my house

I have saved tons of $$$ driving and fixing my old BII... car payments, going into debt for a car loan, forced to keep full coverage insurance is expensive! Driving a $500 Bronco II is not....

Instead of trading it in I use the car payment money for new parts and start wrenching over the years

My dad used to tell me "You could have a new Cadillac for what I put into that old Bronco"
and I'm like thinking "there is no Cadillac that can do this" when I'm wheeling it

Learning these trucks and building a custom truck, making it my own is PRICELESS
 






@410Fortune
yea... i see wut ur saying... should i fix some of the timing components or drive it till the wheels fall off... i agree, would be proud to have 500k miles explorer... probably not going to buy new car, will prob keep the explorer

**edit** just realized ur last post lol

Also thanks! I love my Explorer and looking foward to many miles to come... Ill see about getting a rebuilt engine sometime... or maybe get a newer explorer and take the powertrain out of one and take the newer one and part it out... ill have to see
 


















so my plastic is still soft which makes me happy

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I got mine from LKQ. It was a crashed low mile Ranger, late model. Cheap, relatively speaking.

It's not a fun job, but you'll get an extra few hundred thousand miles out of your Ex after you're done. And you'll learn a TON about your vehicle.
 






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