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SOA vs SUA

thejoker954

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OK so basically all I want to know is if the SOA conversion is basically just a cheap body lift? I know it gives you 4-6 inches of additional clearance in the back but nothing i saw actually says where. and doing an add-a-leaf to a SUA would be like a 2 inch suspension lift? is my thinking correct in these matters?
 



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the name itself actually says where... as in spring over axle... as in the spring moves from under the axle to over the axle

no its not lika a body lift, its a suspension lift
 






Stock the explorer has the Spring Under the Axle (hence SUA). Using an add-a-leaf changes the arc of the springs to stiffen up the suspension which in turn lifts the rear of the truck (and makes it ride a little stiffer).

An SOA is actually a suspension lift. You take the springs out from under the rear axle and put them on top of the axle (with new perches or using one of the SOA kits) and it does give you 5-6" of lift depending on the spring perch you use.

~Mark
 






My 4" lift kit is SUA suspension lift. They essentially give you longer leaf springs and maybe some longer brackets depending on what you get.

I'm not sure on this one, because I don't have a SOA conversion yet, but i think it would still qualify as a "suspension lift" because the springs are still attached to the frame and are simply lifting the entire frame by going over the axle rather than under it, not just the body.
 






An SOA is definitely a suspension lift. It is a change to the basic set up of the stock suspension... it just changes the place the leafs mount...
 






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ok so I guess I just think of a suspension lift the wrong way(guess that happens when you do a couple months worth of research in a couple days). I was thinking a suspension lift would be lifting the whole rear axle up and off the ground along with the truck. but i guess just bigger tires will do that ;P
 






a suspension lift drops the axles down away from the truck. if you moved them closer to the truk it would lower it.
 






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Lifting the axle off the ground can only be done by installing taller tires, that's not a "lift" per-se, but rather just adding ground clearance. You can get some farily good size tires on an explorer without lift if you're willing to remove whatever metal and plastic is in the way, but most folks prefer not to chop up their truck's body.

Whether you want to do a suspension lift or body lift (or both), the basic prinicipal is the same, get the truck body out of the way so you can gain ground clearance by adding larger tires. Body lift offers 0 benefit in terms of increased suspension performance since you're still running all the stock suspension stuff, you just put spacers in-between the body and frame. A suspension lift will replace the stock componentns (at least some of them) with specially designed after-market parts such as new springs/ shocks/ control arms, shackles, etc... that, in general, offer some performace advantage (such as better flex, softer ride, higher capacity and what have you) in addition to the extra stature gained.

Have you considered axle upgrades such as a limited slip or locker to improve traction first? It seems these days there are not a whole lot of places left where the Forest Service or BLM is allowing us to drive that a stock height Explorer really "can't make it" Tire chains will get you farther in deep snow and mud than huge tires, and at a tiny fraction of the cost. I've done nothing to my 97 Sport but put on the next larger tire size (265/75/16) and swap out my rear mono-leafs for the 4 leaf packs that were under a V8 AWD truck and I have no trouble keeping up with my buddies Land Rover or Xterra. Just my two cents...
 












thanks for the help guys I really appreciate it. and that picture is great. Im not getting into anything too serious with my exploder, just really trying to understand my options. as of now all I'm gonna do is the TT with AAL as this seems to be the cheapest way to lift the truck evenly. and you're right HiImElvis, I don't really wanna start cutting up my body, I like how the Eddie Bauer looks, I just think it will look better higher with bigger tires :)
 






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