speaker help please

[nmlax39]

thanks ill probably try to take care of it tommorow, ill let yall know within the next couple days

 

[JohnnyBoy1102]

Sounds to me like your losing your ground on your speakers. you should have soldered your wires and shrinkwrapped them or at least electrical tape and solder. honestly you dont need a professionally installed anything its all idiot proof in a sense

I have done all my own audio work myself and have had no problems. alls you gotta do for speakers is look up a wiring diagram for your car. fords are basically universal my buddies 04 stang was teh same as my 98 explorer. find your positive and negative. solder your wires accordingly and shrinkwrap and then electrical tape for precaution. thats what i do because my door panel speakers tend to get dirty easier which could cause connections to corrode faster.

 

[nmlax39]

**** it was like the audio store dude said, i took out my drivers door speaker and my **** worked perfectly, i think i jus messed up wiring it cause its not blown out

 

[JohnnyBoy1102]

a speaker will still work if you wire it backwards. like i said it sounded like a loose connection this is why you solder and electrical tape/shrink wrap your wires not twist and tape. not if you want a more permanent connection.

 

[nmlax39]

ya thats exactly what it was i just have no idea how to solder or crimp though

 

[Mutineer]

Glad you found it... what did the guy at the store say to do about it?

Seems like you could just hook it up right and it would work...

Do your speakers draw too much from your system? im just spitballing here...

You can crimp easy. Theres a kit at Autozone, or Walmart even, and Itll have the connectors you need... if not go to best buy and they will have the right stuff.

Good luck. Im glad you arent going to have to run new wires to bypass the system, its not hard but its alot of interior R&R.

Still watching, this is a new one on me.

 

[JohnnyBoy1102]

im surprised you dont know how to solder. its pretty basic you should have learned it in middle school but anyways its the real only way to do radio connections. crimping is ok but its not the best because the crimp on ends can come off easily. solder dont break too easy lol not by itself at least. and its a solid connection because your joining the two pieces with molten metal rather than leaving a chance of the electricity arcing over the two. look it up some time. if u lived near me id give you a lil soldering 101 but sadly you do not.

 

[Mutineer]

im surprised you dont know how to solder. its pretty basic you should have learned it in middle school...

Easy...I agree with the rest of your statement but we cant ALL be Thomas Edison...

 

[JohnnyBoy1102]

dude im not saying im thomas edison but im saying if he just tapes his wires together hes got a chance of ruining his speakers by them not being properly grounded... i am just giving him the reason why he should just learn how to solder and do it that way.

smart ass...

 

[Mutineer]

smart ass...

Thanks!

Now Tell me how you really feel...

I just meant that part of the statement was alittle harsh.

The guy came on here and admitted he didnt know how to do something and you belittled him for it.

why not offer a solution like a link to some instructions:

http://www.mediacollege.com/misc/solder/

or

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/81883_how-solder-intro.htm

Dont just tell him that he

...should have learned it in middle school...

and

"...if u lived near me id give you a lil soldering 101 but sadly you do not"

and leave it there.

I thought you were trying to help the guy up till that last post.


...smart ass :mattmoon:

 

[Mutineer]

nmlax39:

Did the guy at best buy tell you what to do about it?

Did it work when you verified and hooked it up right?

Bad speaker?

Loose connection?

When Crimping:

Crimping involves the use of a butt connector pressed onto the ends of two wires creating a splice. Use the right size butt connector for the guage wire you are using...they are usually color coded and I usually use the red ones for stock speaker wire.

The crimp tool in the kit will be color coded too and will tell you which part of the jaws to use for each connector. Those metal peices are the metal tubes found inside the butt connectors, this is what you will press together on the ends to crimp the wires.

You strip back the wires the appropriate length and insert them into the opposite ends of the connector, then using the crimp tool to press the ends around the wires.

TIPS:

I could not find a good pic of a properly crimped connector very quickly, but that one is close to what you want to see.

Be sure you crimp the metal part of the connector and not the plastic sheathing, this will do you no good and will require the use of a new butt connector.

Be sure you strip the wires the right length: Too long will have bare wire outside the insulation, and too short will give a bad connection and possibly not connect at all. Measure twice, cut/strip once.

Dont crush the connector: squeeze untill the connector seats into itself but dont go too far or it will ruin it, then you have to cut the ends ans start over.

If you crimp them just make sure after you squeeze the connector that the wires dont move around in the connector, then wrap it up with some electrical tape to keep the grime and mild water out.

Hope this helps you out, I can explain the soldering to you if you want to do it that way, send me a PM.

Since I'm not at home where I can take pictures myself, I found them on the net:

REFERENCE FOR SOME PICTURES: www.xcalibr.net www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23576
OTHERS CAME FROM GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH.

 

[JohnnyBoy1102]

Im not belittling the guy im simply saying i learned how to solder in middle school it was a standard thing for tech ed. not saying anything bad about him im just telling him that soldering is the best way to go. crimping is a bad idea because no matter how hard you crimp those insul crimps on there they run the chance of falling off which i have had happen a few times. easpecially with speaker wire because of how small it is. and as for the soldering 101 comment i was serious if he lived closer i would be glad to show him how to solder because its a useful skill for more than just speakers. iv used it on my speakers my head units my LEDs and all kinds of ****. its just necessary.

 

[Mutineer]

Agreed. Soldering is definately the way to go and is a neccesary skill in this area.

Im no expert, but what I know I learned the hard way and had people act like I thought you were acting (like I felt your comments came off to others).

It makes it harder when people act that way.

If you didnt mean it that way then I apologize... you weren't even talking to me...lol

If you did mean it that way I stand by my statements.

 

[JohnnyBoy1102]

Not meant to make him feel bad i was just telling him soldering is the best way an that he should learn how to keep from damaging his speakers. when speakers dont have a sufficient ground they burn up fast. same with amps and subs.

 

[Scotty J.]

Wow! I'm expecting a new head unit tomorrow and was looking for some tips on crimping the wires and look where it brought me! AWESOME!

Mutineer, thanks for your tips, here's a pic of a properly crimped connector that I found at "about dot com" while searching.