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Fix for a Missing Engine

Posted by: Jack Lobdell

Many Explorer owners have experienced "bogging" or "missing" or just unsteady performance in their 4.0 engine and have been frustrated by lots of expensive "non-fixes". After riding on a plane next to a manufacturing trainer from a company that builds OEM replacement auto electrical components for places like AutoZone and CarQuest, I tried his tip. He says that Ford have these problems more than other makes and the 4.0 engine seems to be more susceptible to the problem than other Ford engines.

It seems that a "missing" engine culprit is actually the computer's sensor inside the Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF). It eventually just gets a little dirty or builds up its own patina in the filament wires. A dirty or slightly patinated filament will send the wrong air reading to the computer, saying it is getting more air than it really is and the computer will tell the EFI to send in the wrong mix of fuel, thus, the bogging. The patina seems to form faster if you live in a damp climate. I don't so here in New Mexico mine went 82K before it developed a small "flat idle spot"…it would run just fine but the idle began to drop every few revs from 700 to 500. No big deal.

If you have had bogging or missing or idle spots, about every 25K miles plan on this quick cleaning job:
When your engine is cool, remove the wiring clip from the side of the black plastic sensor part of the MAF aluminum body. To remove the MAF interior sensor wire, you will need a Security Star (Size T15 or T20) screwdriver or screwdriver bit for a power screwdriver. Remove the two security star-head screws and carefully remove the sensor. You will see the two sensor filaments…they look almost like the filaments on a light bulb. Carefully spray the filaments with an O2 safe carburetor cleaner, such as Gumout. Let it dry thoroughly. I help mine along with a careful blast or two of canned dry air. While it is drying carefully wipe the aluminum mount surface of the MAF body if there is any dust there, but be careful not to get dust in the mount hole. When the sensor is dry, replace the sensor back in the MAF body and secure with the security star-head screws. These don't need to be torqued down, just simply hand tight. Replace the wiring clip. Then start up your engine. You should have solved any bogging or missing problems. My flat idle spot is ancient history.
 



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BrooklynBay said:
I bought a computer from AutoZone a while ago, and it was only the PROM chip (GM computer) inside of it. That PROM is not being manufactured anymore by any company (or the dealer). They wouldn't take the computer back, and told me to contact Cardone, which is the remanufacturer. That company is a big joke. You could send them a dozen emails, and they will never respond. I did manage to get their contact information phone # in their Philadelphia office, but by that time, the transmission went, so I didn't bother. The moral of the story is: don't try to return any electrical items unless you know for sure that they will take it back if it is not the defective part. I was promised a 3 month warranty from AutoZone, but they did not honor it when I tried to return it.


alright thanks i will keep that in mind
i think im gunna break down and tow it to the dealership
and have a pro look at it im giving up....
thanks for all the imput guys and im going to keep u posted on what the dealer had to say and see that the problem really is
 






fuel pump......i feal hella stupid
 












jlxplorer said:
fuel pump......i feal hella stupid
I, too, would be interested to know how they determined the fuel pump was bad. At one point (post #13), you said, "the fuel delivery system is awsome, awsome pressure everything." Fuel pump contributes to driveability problems by not pumping or pumping erratically. One would expect this to show up during a fuel pressure test (low pressure or fluctuating pressure but not "awesome").
It would be interesting to know what the shop did that was different from what you did. Then we'd all have a better idea how to determine if a faulty fuel pump is contributing to similar problems.
 






I once had an intermittent short in the electric fuel pump on my 74 Ford Courier (Mazda). It would just shut off for no apparent reason, usually at freeway speed (a real drag, literally). Shut the key off, and it would turn back on again and pump like normal. It was apparently a common problem because the Ford parts counter guy knew exactly what it was as soon as I described the symptoms to him .

So I could see where it might be difficult to determine a bad fuel pump in an injected vehicle if it were an intermittent electric problem. Most of the time the pressure would be normal, but when it stopped working the pressure would be low causing the mixture to go lean and confusing the sensors and the PCM.
 






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