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aldive

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I had someone ask me a question about the rear sway bar and I didn't know the answer.

Can the bar be installed wrong? He said that hew has seen the "bow of the bar" pointed upward as well as downward.

Anyone know?

Further, if it can be installed wrong, what difference in handling would it make.

Thanks .....
 



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I don't think it's possible to install it upside down on an Explorer, front or rear. You'll know it's wrong once you go to put the endlinks in.
 






It absolutly can be installed upside down and alot of people have done so.
Inc the person that installed bar-be-que hotdogs (Ronnie)
 






spindlecone said:
It absolutly can be installed upside down and alot of people have done so.
Inc the person that installed bar-be-que hotdogs (Ronnie)

I thought it might be able to; any idea on the function?
 






aldive said:
I thought it might be able to; any idea on the function?
Has been said that they work fine upside down
 












I think I shall remove my rear sway bar and reinstall it upside down and compare its function.
 






aldive said:
I think I shall remove my rear sway bar and reinstall it upside down and compare its function.
Be Carefull, remember what happened to Ronnie
 












Is that really what happened? Wow.

Still had to be some driver error, I've been running no rear sway bar for months now.
 






As I recall thats what ronnie posted on the site, am thinking was a pic also, but not sure
 






Hartman said:
I don't think it's possible to install it upside down on an Explorer, front or rear. You'll know it's wrong once you go to put the endlinks in.

Sorry, it can easily be installed upside down.
 






Sway bar position evaluation

I have been using the Explorer Express rear sway bar (http://www.explorerexpress.com/catalog/pages/swaybars.html ) on my ’99 for over 4 years (http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45630&highlight=sway+bar+lowered ). It is definitely one of the best mods that I have performed on my Explorer. Nevertheless, a friend recently asked me if a sway bar could be installed “wrong”, ie, upside down and what difference in handling that would make.

My hypothesis for this experiment is that the mounting position of the bar will make no difference in handling. Lets review the actual purpose of a sway bar ( in point of fact should referred to as a anti-sway bar ). Simply put, a sway bar couples the suspension on one side to the other side. I don’t see how its position will matter.

I decided to remove the existing rear sway bar and reinstall it upside down and road test to determine its effect on handling.

To remove the EE bar, I first jacked up the truck and placed jack stands on the frame. Next, I removed the spare tire to provide additional working space. This was followed by removing the lower end link bolts ( 18 mm ) and the lower shock bolts ( 15 mm bolt 18 mm nut ). Next, the sway bar to axel brackets/bushings were removed ( 2 x 13 mm bolts on each ). The sway bar was then lowered straight to the garage floor.

I did not replace the existing poly bushings since they were in excellent condition.

The sway bar was reinstalled ( upside down ) by reversing the removal procedure. The spare tire was reinstalled.

The truck was jacked up, the jack stands removed, and finally lowered to the ground.

The whole process took about one hour. Air tools made the task a snap.

A road test on a twisty road that I frequently drive was performed. Initial impressions: I could tell no significant difference. I had a friend drive the truck and he said he felt no difference ( I did not tell him what was done ).

I shall continue to drive with the inverted bar for a 1000 or so miles and then reinstall the sway bar in the correct position. Long term impressions will then be reported.
 

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Al
Whats the point in running with an incorrectly mounted swaybar? (less wind resistance?) what are you going to prove by doing so?
Would think that suspension engineers have a valid reason for the way it should be mounted
 






Made a 140 mile trip down to Ft Meyers to have a late breakfast with a friend and to test the sway bar mounting.

The trip down was all I75 at 68 MPH and the return run was on US at various speeds.

I could detect no difference in ride quality or handling with the bar mounted upside down.
 






spindlecone said:
Be Carefull, remember what happened to Ronnie

Based on my testing, I seriously doubt that an upside down mounted sway bar had any cause for the accident.
 






aldive said:
Based on my testing, I seriously doubt that an upside down mounted sway bar had any cause for the accident.

I doubt it too. The bar is still functioning the same when it's mounted upside down.
 






spindlecone said:
Al
Whats the point in running with an incorrectly mounted swaybar? (less wind resistance?) what are you going to prove by doing so?
Would think that suspension engineers have a valid reason for the way it should be mounted

Why do you continue to attempt to stir up trouble? There are some who do and some who only want to cause trouble.
 






I hand it to you for experimenting, and find it interesting

edit: I just went outside to look, and to my amazement, this mod might make it a bit more convenient to change the diffy fluid.
 



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Nothing wrong with experimenting if you have the time i guess, but it's pretty clear (to me anyway) that the bar isn't going to function any differently if mounted upside down. It's still preventing side to side axle movement.
 






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