Torsion bar question

[carlover]

i had to crank my torsion bars up to the max with the stock adjuster bolts. Now when i go over a speed bump it feels like the right side is going to fall off. Feels like it has no downward travel at all. Any suggestions??? Other than dropping the lift down, i had to stuff 33's thats why they got cranked.

 

[cgriffin_5139]

Yep slow down speed racer!

 

[Premier]

Do you have abodylift too?

 

[Dan Whitaker]

I hope you have 2wd if you cranked them all the way up.

 

[cgriffin_5139]

I hope you have 2wd if you cranked them all the way up.

yes its 2wd

 

[carlover]

actually even if i go really slow it still does it. It like its bottoming out or somthing on the way back down. No body lift and its 2wd.

 

[GJarrett]

It's very simple. Think about it. It has no downward travel because you've already cranked it down to full extension. You've already used up all of your downward travel while it's sitting still.

You've got something like 8 1/2" of travel and I assume you have shock absorbers with stock lenghts which would limit the travel before maxing out your CV joints, so you've probably got about 7" of real travel up front.

In stock configuration, your suspension rests midway and goes up and down 3.5~4" when you travel. Now you've raised up your resting level a couple of inches. You're working with the same travel you had before, except now you ride with 6" of compression travel but only 1" or less of extension travel.

You've got lots of upward travel now. But you've already used all of your downward travel before your Explorer even moves. Start moving over uneven terrain and you're gonna feel the effect of that, which is exactly what is happening.

 

[carlover]

im gonna see if i can back off the adjuster bolts a little without having any rubbing issues with the tires. Im trying to get a set of fabtech spindles for now until i can get enough money for the camburg 6.0.

 

[reserved50]

maybe longer front shocks , maybe 2"? longer, as long as they dont bottom out, if they do you need to extend the bump stop or place a bushing on the shock rod

 

[AMMO_HOOAH]

maybe longer front shocks , maybe 2"? longer, as long as they dont bottom out, if they do you need to extend the bump stop or place a bushing on the shock rod

If he gets longer shocks something else will bottom out then i.e. ball joints. A set of limit straps will keep it from doing it though.

 

[MountaineerGreen]

Try shock extenders- but be careful, you can stress or break ball joints possibly. Spindles are the best way to go for you.

 

[etc]

It's very simple. Think about it. It has no downward travel because you've already cranked it down to full extension. You've already used up all of your downward travel while it's sitting still.

You've got something like 8 1/2" of travel and I assume you have shock absorbers with stock lenghts which would limit the travel before maxing out your CV joints, so you've probably got about 7" of real travel up front.

In stock configuration, your suspension rests midway and goes up and down 3.5~4" when you travel. Now you've raised up your resting level a couple of inches. You're working with the same travel you had before, except now you ride with 6" of compression travel but only 1" or less of extension travel.

You've got lots of upward travel now. But you've already used all of your downward travel before your Explorer even moves. Start moving over uneven terrain and you're gonna feel the effect of that, which is exactly what is happening.

Quoting in case you missed it.

 

[reserved50]

good point lol, but I mean whats the absolute max extension, I have found out anything past 2.5" lower will cause a vibration, just wondering since he didnt mention he had a NVH problem yet, his axle axle will probably max out before the joints im assuming?. I also have seen lift spindles. What about a strap of some sort to limit max extension? (oops already mentioned), crap I got to stop sleep posting
If ford had shortened and centered the front diff as much as possible and extended the axles it would of solved a lot of problems, raised or lowered.

 

[Ray Lobato]

If you're gonna run on 33's, you really should throw a body lift on it, so you don't rub too much,or at all. You are already experiencing what happens when you max out your travel. This is not a safe thing to do, and will only cause excess wear and damage over a short period of time.
Please think about what you are doing and take the time and spend the money to do the job correctly.
Everyone wants their truck to look cool, but don't do it at the cost of making it unsafe.
Just my $0.02

 

[cgriffin_5139]

good point lol, but I mean whats the absolute max extension, I have found out anything past 2.5" lower will cause a vibration, just wondering since he didnt mention he had a NVH problem yet, his axle axle will probably max out before the joints im assuming?. I also have seen lift spindles. What about a strap of some sort to limit max extension? (oops already mentioned), crap I got to stop sleep posting
If ford had shortened and centered the front diff as much as possible and extended the axles it would of solved a lot of problems, raised or lowered.

this is 2wd! not 4x4!

 

[carlover]

Gonna drop it back down a half inch today and use the grinder on any place it rubs. Gonna get a set of fabtech spindles for 250$ so those will go on soon. Dont want a body lift due to the fact that within 6 months ill be installing a camburg front setup and either soa or deavers in the rear.

 

[carlover]

If you're gonna run on 33's, you really should throw a body lift on it, so you don't rub too much,or at all. You are already experiencing what happens when you max out your travel. This is not a safe thing to do, and will only cause excess wear and damage over a short period of time.
Please think about what you are doing and take the time and spend the money to do the job correctly.
Everyone wants their truck to look cool, but don't do it at the cost of making it unsafe.
Just my $0.02

Thanks for the input, i fully understand the safety issues in limiting suspension travel. The 33's were an impulse type of buy, got them for really cheap with rims. Kicking myself in the a** now with the issues with the rubbing and suspension issues due to cranking t-bars to high.