we went down the the 650 Strip Mines in Ironton, OH with my brother in law, me in the Explorer, him in his s-10 blazer, and we weren't out to really do anything serious he sunk his truck into a 4 Ft hole, it SWALLOWED his blazer, I got him pulled out, but blew my front auto-lockers in the process, so looks like time for manuals!!! I don't off-road much, but it did point out several things I need to address, the lockers for one, the bumpers gotta go since I ripped off the air dam, need tow hooks (I carry a chain with tow t-keys, but it woulda been nice to have a hook front and back, and tires loose in the back of a truck make alotta noise, so now that I'm moved in with a garage again a tire carrier and rear bumper is in order.