2000 AWD Xploder from Turbo back to NA

[willzilla]

Ah, the new packs require matching wires, that's odd. But truly my wires didn't fit the Accel packs as well. Each maker seems to shape the wire towers slightly differently. I chose the Accel for the least contrasting color showing, everyone else was buying the MSD units. I think I got had, because they are all expensive, and mine went bad in less than 3500 miles.

For the 302's, I wonder if Screamin Demon makes a coil pack yet, they only had the 4.0 units back then? Theirs are all black.

Ooo... I was referring to the coil pack on my SVT Focus, not the Xploder

The tower connections on the MSD and the OEM for the focus are completely different so the wires cannot be swapped between them :-/

 

[CDW6212R]

Yes I gather that the Focus has unique towers.

I did just search Summit, and they do list a DUI coil pack now that fits the Ford V8's, and are cheaper($99).
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/dui-31725/overview/make/ford

Good luck with the miss, those can be very tough to track down.

 

[willzilla]

Thankfully the coil packs for my SVTf are only $60ish for the OEM and I only need one, so, not too bad... Once I replace fuel rail vent hose and spark plugs if cylinder 2 misfire still on the SVTf I will prob just replace the MSD with an OEM tower and put on some Taylor 8.2mm wires and then sell the MSD wires or some such.

OEM SVTf coil:

MSD SVTf coil:

 

[CDW6212R]

I see what the deal is for that SVT, the MSD coil pack is like the V8 unit. That OEM part is odd, and MSD probably didn't want to make it like that. I saw DUI units shaped like that in my search for coil packs. Maybe DUI has one for a similar price to the Ford part.

Check the part number of that MSD unit, maybe you can resell it to more people if it fits other vehicles.

 

[willzilla]

I see what the deal is for that SVT, the MSD coil pack is like the V8 unit. That OEM part is odd, and MSD probably didn't want to make it like that. I saw DUI units shaped like that in my search for coil packs. Maybe DUI has one for a similar price to the Ford part.

Check the part number of that MSD unit, maybe you can resell it to more people if it fits other vehicles.

Yeah. Craziness, lol.

I just bought the WP374 electric water pump for the Xploder, should have it sometime next week.

I also bought a new Motorcraft ignition coil for the SVTf and some 8.2mm Taylor thundervolt wires. If that fixes my misfire issue I will sell the MSD wires and prob junk the coil as it's prob bad.

 

[CDW6212R]

Or the wires again, lots of these parts are fragile, we hardly can't touch them.

 

[willzilla]

Not much new lately.. Waiting on my new water-pump to arrive... Got my SVTf up and running though with a new OEM coil and 8.2mm Taylor ThunderVolt spark plug wires Also put on brand new Autolite spark plugs. The SVTf is running smooth as butter. Also am swapping my Diablo Predator out for another SCT3 and having my tune updated (just had to buy the tuner and got credit back to return my Predator to my tuner).

One thing that is irking me though is my damn NEW Centric rotors and Hawk HPS pads squeak like no other when braking. They are NEW but were sitting on the car for 4 years or so... Looking at the rotors, once I drove it and the pads cleaned the surface rust off they look great but still sound horrible :-/ Should I yank the pads off and sand them some to maybe remove rust pockets or something?

 

[CDW6212R]

Brakes that are prone to squeaking usually do it very early on, and after that are extremely hard to stop.

The Hawk pads which came with SSBC calipers I put on long ago were very bad, they were very loud and wore out in about three months. The EBC pads(red) I bought to replace those were great, and now I have the same version on to replace those, also very good.

I agree, I'd take the pads off and try to surface both the rotors and the pads. Use a spinning sand paper pad at the least for rotors, take them to be turned if you can. Pads are not easy to resurface, try to find the roughest ******* file you can, and rough them up. You want to remove say .020" or so from the pads, enough to take off the outer glazed layer. The rotors just need a slight taken off, again to remove the outer surface.

Any time that you hear the brake squeak, stop applying that brake pressure, which will stop the noise. Either use more brake pressure, or less, which will take more effort to do.

My USPS mail truck has very cheap pads used on it, they always begin to squeak after a month or so. It is hard to think about it, and not use the normal brake pressure(pedal effort). Good luck with that.

 

[willzilla]

Yeah, that was the plan.. Will do all that once I get the Xploder on the road so I won't have any down time

Also... Got a little gift in today!!

And picked up some added defense as well (added some grips and little decal work):

Additionally... MSD is going to replace my bad ignition coil on the SVTf... Once I get the replacement unit I will just go ahead and sell it and the 8.5mm MSD wires to recoup what I spent on the OEM coil and Taylor ThunderVolts as I like that setup more anyways!

 

[CDW6212R]

Pretty parts, etal.

 

[Dono]

I really want to see how the electric water pump goes.

 

[willzilla]

I really want to see how the electric water pump goes.

Me too! For the cost I'm hoping miracles! LOL

 

[willzilla]

Got back from a week long vacation in Pensacola so haven't done much. Worked on car a little last night doing the 1" IM spacer install. About half done... Up to point where I'm about to pull off the IM/TB. Going to finish during the week as I have tons of hw to do today to finish install now sadly :-\

Will do wp and fan once done!

Hoping for an improvement of 1-2 mpg and maybe 15-20hp with e-fan/e-wp/IM spacer combo... Seems reasonable?

Also plan soon after exhaust tweaks and tune update :-D

 

[Dono]

Where did you research that electric waterpump? Is there a real gain in efficiencies? Im just wondering since it has to run all the time, unlike an e-fan.

Its cool, and I'm really interested in the results.

 

[willzilla]

Where did you research that electric waterpump? Is there a real gain in efficiencies? Im just wondering since it has to run all the time, unlike an e-fan.

Its cool, and I'm really interested in the results.

I bought the pump because my stock pump was leaking a little and I could not quite fit (cpl mm off) my Lincoln Mark VIII e-fan... I see a wide variable in what people have gotten with the Meziere e-waterpump but everyone says it's super reliable, rebuildable, etc, and people have gotten anywhere from 0whp/0qtq to 5-10whp/15wtq+, and a good 1-2mpg improvement, so... Figured that, plus e-fn upgrade, and the 1" IM spacer should all combine for a nice little improvement overall and clean up the engine bay some!

I'd like to toss on a supercharger in the future perhaps which would work nicely with the combo as well I'd think?

 

[willzilla]

Been busy working on the SVTf as well... Juggling two cars, haha. Was able to swap out my old Diablo Predator tuner for another SCT3 (for my SVT) at a nice price with my Focus tuner so hoping to update my SVTf tune soon once I make another firewire cable for the AF gauge to SCT3 tuner.

 

[willzilla]

Oooo, and on a side note... MSD replaced my 4+ year old MSD ignition coil on the SVTf under warranty even though they only have a 1 year warranty but because I was overseas and the car sat in storage the entire time and had only 800 miles on the coil they still replaced it for me! Awesome! Though, I'm keeping the OEM coil and ThunderVolts and selling the MSD setup, was nice to be able to maybe get some of my money back on it

 

[Dono]

I was reading about your pump trying to understand where the gains are.

They seem to be up in the high rpm ranges where the parasitic drag is the highest. Lower rpm's you are getting better coolant flow around the motor, hopefully reducing hot spots.

Im guessing you will need a shorter belt also?

Nice to get a win on the coils.

 

[willzilla]

I was reading about your pump trying to understand where the gains are.

They seem to be up in the high rpm ranges where the parasitic drag is the highest. Lower rpm's you are getting better coolant flow around the motor, hopefully reducing hot spots.

Im guessing you will need a shorter belt also?

Nice to get a win on the coils.

"Should" be the same belt size as the pump I got was the WP374 with the idler pulley so the belt will still go around the pulley just like on a mechanical pump but it is just there for support as without it the belt wouldn't route properly and make contact with the crank at all.

In this photo the entire gray piece is the pulley so it gives a lot of leeway on belt depth and such:

 

[CDW6212R]

It does look great.

What is the depth as you measure it for both that WP and the stock one? That is where is the tightest point at the front to the fan, on the stock WP it's the threads for the fan(or the base of threads if you dared to cut those off).

Also, how far out does the pulley belt surface go compared to the old one? That would be important to determine if an 8-rib belt could be used. I hope to not need one.