302 Conversion, Part II 94 XLT

[fordkrazy]

oknut...i did mean to say a/c box. the heater box is inside the vehicle. the a/c box is right by the engine...go figure ford puts something that is supposed to be cold next to something that is really hot. technically its all one box with some 'trap doors' that adjust the temp... any way gofast it dosnt look like you trimmed it....do you have a body lift?

 

[Gofast]

Got Lift...Yes

Yep,, Got 3" body lift sitting on top of 5.5" + Superlift with 35" tires.

The Body lift helped a lot with clearance for the conversion.



BTW....I used to live on Skyline Dr in Stillwater. Also used to go to Joe's before they were a resturant.......

 

[fordkrazy]

cool man....im in ambassador one apartments off perkins rd. and i dont go to joes cause it makes me sick. they had like 70 health code violations last year. food poisioning is plentiful around these parts. your stomache really has to get used to eating here. any way i thought of a question for you .... what has been the main limiting fator in getting this project done for you. based on what i have heard an read the swap takes 50-70 hrs. is this a good estimation or does it take much longer. i know you have been working for a while now but many make it seem like it only takes a week or so to get it done. the reason im asking is cause my explorer is my transportation and i want to limit my down time or be able to plan around it. im sure it helps to have all the parts before you start doing the swap. thanks for your help.

 

[RFR2212]

Uh, Rob.....It's been awhile...a long while since the last post.....where does yer project stand?
Pete

 

[Clint]

i know where is the update

 

[Speedfreak]

Intake and belt clearance

GoFast an easy solution for the intake clearance would be a '94-'95 Mustang upper intake. It bolts to '86 to 95 5.0LHO lowers and has a nice elbow already. Only difference is EGR runs from the right hedder to manifold rather than thru the intake. As for the accessories find all the brackets off a 5.0L Explorer from a wrecker, or even '94 - '95 Mustang stuff. They both run the belt about 1.5 inches closer to the block for extra room to the rad. I plan on putting in a 5.0L into my Explorer as well and have done some preliminary work already. Hope this may help.

 

[Gofast]

Update time....

Was hoping to post an update and tell you how good it sounds.

Anyway, The intake now fits! I bought a 94/95 adapter that has a 45 degree bend. Need to figure out how to run the EGR stuff and linkage for the Throttle Body. Also need the hose or tube that goes to the MAS or MAF sensor. ( I get them confused with the LS1 equivilent )

I may take SpeedFreek up on the advice to change brackets. I need clearance bad up front.

Next Item, Mount the gearbox ( Gerald? Help? ) Install Injectors and start working on Brackets and accesoriies plus the waterpump.

Thanks Rob

 

[GJarrett]

Re: Update time....

Originally posted by Gofast
Next Item, Mount the gearbox ( Gerald? Help? )...

I've got Hunter with me until June 22nd but I'll bet we could schedule a wrenchathon while the kids hit the pool. Just give me a call!

 

[Sandy]

45 Degree angle Adapter

Have you thought about eliminating the EGR ?

Is the 45 degree angle piece an SVO item ? If so then all of the mount locations shhould be there, but... there is always a but, why not leave the orginal EGR inplace and add the 45. You will have to block any open holes but I hear say that it will increase the low end torque by increasing the upper plenum volumne.

Just a thought.

I looked at one of the TrickFlow 45s and all of the attaching points were there. I didn't want any of the attaching points so I didn't buy it. If yours doesn't have the attaching points please let me know, I may want to buy one.

Keep us updated on your progress.

 

[Gofast]

SVO elbow

Sandy, Mine has all the EGR stuff on it. I'm not using the orginal one because that save me an 1" on the A/C box side. I need the room. I'll hook the EGR up with a custom tube to the plenum or the exahust manifold ( forget which it routes too )and I said custom because I just added a 1/2" riser to the intake so I would have linkage clearance on the throttle body and the valve cover.

Getting Closer, just need to figure out which water pump bolts are studs for accesories and which ones are just bolts. It's kind of like a 3D puzzel right now.

Thanks Rob

 

[Sandy]

Good show...
The 1/2" riser should increase the low end torque also. (per TrickFlow)

I thought the 45 would have all of the s__t on it. I disconnected the EGR on my Ranger/5.0L setup and have had not problems except the high idle and NightRanger helped me out on that one.
Seems it is the 10pin harness connections that cause the problem.

Keep it touch with the forum.

 

[NIGHTRANGER5.0]

sandy

I take it cleaning that 10 pin did the trick?

 

[Gofast]

Wrench-A-Thon weekend

Sunday, will be a workday on Frankenstien.

Gerald is coming over to help me get the gearbox and Flaming rivershaft put back in the truck. ALso, plan on putting the injectors in and working on the pulleys and accersories if time permits.

There is lots of little things todo and it all adds up. Should have some pictures to post late sunday showing where things stand.

Hoping to make CCR2001!

Thanks Rob

 

[Sandy]

NIGHTRANGER5.0,
Seems to have helped, tnx.

I didn't do a good job, I didn't have the right tools so I tried to take the connector apart with standard tools, not the best thing to do.
I am going to pick up a connector set, hopefully tomorrow and install new connectors w/dielectric grease.

Tnx,

 

[NIGHTRANGER5.0]

sandy

Where do you plan to get a connector set? My ford dealer was oblivious to anything related to EFI harness hard shell connectors.

A while back i was attempting to try anf find a 4 pin hardshell. I wanted to make a new jumper harness for my passenger side o2.

The 4 pin o2 plug off the harness was damaged and instead of soldering a o2 connector in i wanted to start from scratch and build the harness with new pins and connectors.

In the end i found a 4 wire jumper out of a 90's 150. Now i need to cut out the 4 pin and solder directly into the Main harness.

The 93 HO couger 5.0 o2's are set-up different then a stang.

Now i'm comming up short on diagrams and can't get thru to the ford techline.

So where do you plan to get fresh connectors?

 

[RFR2212]

Rob-
Is there any update from this weekend? You thought you were gonna be doin alot of work on it sunday, and I'm seein if ya got any work done, or some photos of it.
Pete

 

[Gofast]

Yep, Some progress

Yep, Worked on it some this weekend.

Mounted all the Injectors and the Engine Harness. Also, mounted the waterpump pulley and lower crank shaft pulley. Doesn't sound like much, but it is.

Actually reading books on wiring diagrams now. Looks like I have most of the stuff ready for that. Need to buy some sensors that go on the intake before proceeding.

I'll post pictures when I'm home and can spend the time.


Thanks rob

 

[MrMatt]

Any updates on the project?

Sounded like it was coming along alright. I can't wait for a writup on the whole process. I have a 91' X that has over 150,000 on it now, I am considering the V8 swap when the tranny or engine finally go.

Anyone have any estimate on the total cost of parts for this project? I could eliminate some cost by skipping the A/C Unit and I wouldn't have to go with all the pretty stuff like you hehe.

Anyway don't know if this is a project I would care to undertake, but Ill probably throw a little research towards it just for the heck of it, any ideas on what a turnkey solution on this might cost me if I could find a shop that would even do it?

Thanks again
-Matt

 

[Sandy]

NIGHTRANGER5.0

 

[Sandy]

NIGHTRANGER5.0

Sorry it took so long, I just read the thread again...
The 10 pin connectors are available from Ford, they come connected together and you have to cut the wires in the middle.

I do not have the bag they came in and SINCE I sold my RANGER , I can not check the numbers.

I will see if I can get the number if you need them.



What am I building now, you don't want to know, but it is Ford 5.0 powered. 115/1 final gear ratio, low gear/low range... it should crawl all by itself.